Why interships are so vital for the auditor delivering the L

Pierre Ethier has NOT trained Trey Lotz and has NOT provided Ls materials to Trey Lotz! Pierre has NO connection with Trey!

Written by Site Admin ( The author is not Pierre Ethier)

Below is a summary of concerns raised by Karen De La Carriere in regard to the lack of proper auditor training for delivery of the Ls in the independent field. IFA / APIS did not provide me with a response and did not address their certification scheme shortcomings in the light of the issues raised below. I want to thank Karen for raising the concerns below and to thank her for taking the safety of the PCs at heart. It requires an impressive amount of dedication in studies and perfection of your own techniques to master the proper delivery of the Ls. It is even more impressive the amount of care  about the well being of the PC  that motivated auditors like Karen to master their tech.

The current situation is that untrained auditors deliver  while PR-ing their business practice with “success stories” and no case gain. On the background are their failed cases spiritually broken, hopeless and desperate. There were instances of   corrupt practices sabotaging the PC ‘s spiritual case. Those practices led to botched Ls and/or extended the delivery time cycle for practitioner’s financial profit to four or even ten times beyond the normal Ls delivery cycle. It is unethical for a trainee to use the PC as a “cash cow” while charging excessive hourly rates. For example the average standardly delivered L12 should take not more than 25 hours delivered in a week.  L11 should be delivered in a week and L10 takes 2-3 weeks.  This is based on case average statistics of over 5000 cases. A warning sign of improper processing of L12 would be if you have received it  in over 4 months period in 130 hours. The Ls are very powerful processing and are designed by LRH to be delivered on an intensive daily schedule in order to produce a successful case gain. The pricing for the Ls is recommended to be based on a flat fee for the whole completed cycle.  It is definitely NOT recommended to get one session a week and if your auditor can not accommodate you in his schedule or shortchange you with  advice  that is against your best interest, this should be a warning sign. One session a week or less on  the Ls is a violation of C/S Series #1. How trustworthy is a testimonial from an individual who is trying to promote their own business with violations of the basic auditing rules that LRH established himself. LRH has designed L11 and L12 to be delivered in about a week and L10 to be delivered in about 3 weeks.

An example of abuse comes to my mind , when a PC was forced to bare the cost of living out of town for 4 months and “completed” L12 in 130 hours paying to a junior class auditor more than what he would of paid in the Church of Scientology for a Class XII auditing.  Normally  this cycle should of taken less than  a week and in 95% of the cases takes less than 2 intensives.

I strongly believe that auditors who really care about their PCs will undergo the proper training, including internships, studies and drills as described by Karen. The independent field needs to adhere to higher standards to KSW.

December 21, 2011

Karen De La Carriere: ….[name omitted ] ….. “never had any Ls training. He certainly did not have the very complex and unique training of Class X, XI and Class XII. There is an enormous study of LRH CSed folders and special testsn to understand why LRH CSed that way. ” ….[name omitted ] ….” never came anywhere near this section of the training.”

Karen De La Carriere : “ The Ls are like a Ferrari. Most people can drive one up to 100mph but the minute you get into 150 mph, when things so wrong, they go terribly wrong. The Ls are high performance spiritual work that require expert handling by qualified Ls auditors. This requires interneships and not done by reading ‘hat write ups”.”

Karen De La Carriere : “When something goes wrong …either in a high performance vehicle or intense spiritual work ~~ the results can be catastrophic if one does not know how to recover from trouble. Lisa Mcpherson, 3 weeks after L-11 (see the image on the web of her proudly displaying her L-11 Cert and smiling) went Type III, taking off her clothes and walking naked on Fort harrison Avenue. This is an example of how badly it can backfire.”

Karen De La Carriere : “What we are discussing is an expanded range, that which can boost you so high spiritually and take you into the lofty heights of heaven can also backfire in the other direction and send you into hell.”

Karen De La Carriere: “ I will never participate in any action that does not guarantee the safety and well being of pcs. Only knowing, training and understanding the length an breadth of the procedures and their remedies can give the results LRH intended for these rundowns.”

Karen De La Carriere : “One example of how Interneships are so vital is that the AUDITING STYLE of Ls auditing is different. You have to un-do all the TRs 1-4 you have ever learned all your life and learn “TR L10 style” It is designed to impact the case differe…ntly. This needs to be drilled and drilled and drilled on video and one has to watch one’ own videos day after day, month after month til one has perfected one’s performance and til it is second nature. There is nothing in the field in current set ups that can even come near approximating Ls training. Each interneship takes MONTHS of 40 hour to 60 hours in the chair of flawless VWD sessions for graduation to be approved. But the pc is the beneficiary and is now in safe hands. The safety and guaranteed stability of the pc is the primary importance here. To hell with any other consideration than the PC and the PC’s benefit.”

The Sad Fate of Lisa McPherson

EVIL AND GREED are the motivations for public attacks on Pierre

Below I have included fresh harassment posts forwarding the CoS enemy lines based on exchanges by Aida Thomas and Trey Lotz, Both targeted to instigate attacks on Pierre by omissions.  I wish them both well! I also wish that both Aida and Trey move on with their life. They both admit in public to have been keeping track on what Pierre is doing while telling fabrications and claiming the  opposite in front of weak minded people they both manipulate to do their dirty work and bidding of viscous attacks. One example about targeted harassment is that right after publishing this note Pierre received threats by email.

Another example is that Trey Lotz below posted comments that  clearly indicate that Trey keeps track on Pierre and who Pierre has trained on the Ls as well as on Pierre’s personal activities. How is this any of Trey’s business and why Trey keeps spreading rumors about Pierre ? Simple answer is that this is Trey’s covert way to instigate attacks on Pierre and fraudulently to portray himself as the “good guy”. This is Scientology fairgame 101. Do not be mistaken about the real intentions as to why those rumors are put on public lines in places where Pierre can not respond! People need to see through it!

I have always hoped that both ( Trey and Aida) can do much better than purposefully forward the church enemy lines. I am also hoping they both  move onto greener pastures! Aida Thomas somehow feels entitled to receive a copy of Pierre’s personal notes about the Ls despite her gross out ethics and consistent attacks spreading fabrications and insults about Pierre, his family and his child. She also sent a foul language KR full of profanities and insults to Pierre wife’s non-Scientology work. Somehow after years of harassing my family, Aida still feels entitled to parasitically use Pierre’s work for her own profit.   When confronted about her own out ethics and how creepy this is , Aida keeps using brainwashed “friends” of hers to dead agent the truth. Aida’s consistent attacks on Pierre are excused with her telling that either “this was so long ago” and deceiving people portraying herself as a victim when she in actual fact is the aggressor posting insults on Pierre on ongoing basis  in various public forums. One fresh example below from February 20 , 2015. Aida’s modus operandi or or so called operational routine is to use her ” friends” or fraudulent puppet accounts to press buttons and generate hostilities on a targeted individual ( in this case Pierre). If you dare to respond to Aida, she will keep smearing and dragging your name into the mud back channel so you can’t even respond.

Trey Lotz on his site operated by spreading the ” convenient” truths and using his brainwashed PCs to viciously attack a targeted individual. Trey Lotz on his site keeps insisting to have been trained by Pierre omitting the fact that he started training and flunked. If one was a doctor and flunked on his exams , hospitals would not allow him to do surgeries. In the FreeZone however anything goes. This including Treys self promoting himself using Pierre’s name with this type of deception and deliberate omissions. One omission of Trey’s was that he was delivering the Ls without the supervision of a C/S . This is very important as some of the fixes are in the C/S materials. Trey also omits that he started training on L11 which he chronically delivered in duration of 4 months when one week is the standard and besides all technical issues he was charging more than what one would normally pay if the Ls was delivered in the Church. For the unsuspected victims let me tell you some truths: that Trey Lotz’s integrity is rather money and greed motivated as he omits to mention that he also made and agreement with Pierre to charge flat fee for the L which is 1/10 ( one tenth ) of the COS price instead of bleeding the PCs for money during his training. Trey has also taken the liberty to spread suggestive enemy lines on Pierre.

As Trey Lotz says below that Pierre has spend a lot of time compiling the materials on the Ls , then how come Trey Lotz threw under the carpet his integrity and his agreements with Pierre and feels justified to use parasitically Pierre’s personal notes for business purpose and to make profit? I view Trey Lotz as a parasite! The very same way Trey Lotz parasitically was using Pierre for free C/S-ing his numerous session and was parasitically using Pierre’s name to market his business by misleading his PCs that they were C/Sed by Pierre when they were not C/Sed at all after Trey’s refusal to correct his tech . Where was Trey’s integrity to pay a fair exchange for Pierre’s time and expenses instead of taking unfair advantage of Pierre who worked like a slave for 20 years at the Church? Trey’s own words claiming that he has a knowledge as to who is Pierre training on the Ls. This is a very interesting statement! Why would Trey Lotz track who is Pierre training and what is Trey’s obsession with Pierre’s personal affairs?

In order to silence some truths Trey Lotz PCs have viciously attacked and fairgamed Pierre  and his family. I am talking this not just spreading mere insults on the internet but legal threats on Pierre and his family, extortion , stalking and criminal harassment in partnership with the CoS ! This is to prove my point about the product of Trey Lotz – his PCs are not spiritually fulfilled stable and serene completing  L11 with Trey , but instead plotting to cause evil to family of 3 people with attempting to profit by taking the home of a disabled child and leaving 3 people homeless on the street. This is Trey’s UGLY and EVIL product!

After many years in silence I decided that from now on I will PUBLISH the information about all manipulations , attacks and constant insults!

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Trey Lotz  busy with forwarding Church of Scientology enemy lines, fabrications to create conflicts and upsets. Below you will see how  Trey) third party Pierre behind his back.

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This following is a response by Pierre Ethier which was originally published in 2012:

Do you distribute copyrighted materials?

Absolutely not, despite of rumors and innuendos from Trey Lotz and his associates.

What about delivery of the Ls in the Free Field?

Rumors and innuendos from Trey Lotz, Perry Sheppard and their associates, using Pierre’s name as a reference and fraudulently claiming that Pierre has trained them to deliver the Ls are untrue

The Ls are designed to be delivered by Flag trained Class XIIs. There is a huge difference between a Flag trained auditor and a field auditor. Below is a Quote by Karen De La Carierre , Class XII C/S: 

“I soon discovered that a “Field Class VIII” did not mean a Flag Class VIII. And so I re-did all my internships and then trained up to Class XII…”

Rumors that Pierre has trained Trey Lotz to deliver the Ls are also untrue.  Pierre did attempt to train Trey Lotz on L11 , Trey committed gross auditing errors , refused correction and never sent a video for evaluation, yet made many unreasonable demands. Trey Lotz never attested nor completed Ls training with Pierre. Trey Lotz is a field auditor, never worked in an advanced organization and has mostly experience auditing the Lower Bridge . It is a well known fact that as a field auditor Trey was forbidden per Church Policy to audit any Upper Level Rundowns and OT Levels. He lacked the discipline  and the training to audit under the supervision of a C/S and lacked experience  to address the complexity of the Upper Bridge . There is vital information for the Ls in the C/S materials and for an auditor with no experience in the Upper Bridge to deliver the Ls without a C/S is reckless. In addition many of the  references related to the Ls are in the Class X , Class XI and Class XII materials and Trey is only Class VIII. When Trey Lotz promotes 40 000 hours on the chair , this means that his experience is overwhelmingly  in the Lower Bridge, which is not as complex as the Upper Bridge. L11 was designed by LRH to be delivered in a week , however Trey Lotz was chronically delivering it on numerous occasions in a duration of 4 months. This information is also broadly documented on the internet in various public releases by Trey’s PCs. Additional out tech was present in Trey’s delivery andPierre wish NO association with Trey Lotz.

A number of Trey Lotz PCs have viciously attacked Pierre and his family on Trey’s behalf , this including attacking Pierre’s child due to his disability or making  other vicious and cruel threats. The very same Trey’s PCs also carried out vast smear campaigns about Pierre and claimed to have  made fraudulent reports to the Church and various government agencies . A PC of Trey claims to have partnered with the Church in attacking Pierre to uphold Trey’s financial interests , claimed to have paid $30 000 to investigate Pierre in order to ruin his auditing practice and take Pierre’s home with intention of unfairly profiting and putting his disabled child homeless. The very same Trey’s PC published on the internet Pierre’s bank account and other clearly private information like phone numbers. Her  invitation  to harass Pierre. This was an organized effort of associates of Trey Lotz in a partnership with the Church to silence and dead agent Pierre in order prevent him from spiritual progress. This evil plot eventually fired back on the conspirators.   Such a behavior is practically shameless and  it is sad to see such  EVIL outcome has been produced by a practitioner out ofGREED! EVIL is a poor product! We hope that one day the above people will realize that seeking to destroy people of good will (like Pierre) is NOT the road to spiritual enlightenment. This also applies to their enablers and associates. In all cases these PCs were prized and socially rewarded  by Trey Lotz despite of their EVIL  behavior seeking to destroy a person of good will. Good people who had voiced private concerns directly to Trey Lotz , had been also threatened and harassed by the very same PCs.

 Trey Lotz NEVER made any advanced payments to Pierre to book or schedule his time and to cover Pierre’s time and expenses with a fair exchange . Rumors and innuendos from Trey Lotz and his associates in that regard are also untrue.  Pierre who spent 20 years in the Sea Org at almost no pay , had covered out of his own pocket many advanced and initial expenses , as well as ongoing expenses related Trey, who had spent his time as a field auditor at the rate of  around $160 000/ year. (based on Trey’s own reports to IRS  for tax exemption 2004 ,2009 , other– not paying taxes for paid services is an operation set up to function like the Church- merely mentioning the facts here! Also  based on Trey Lotz own boosting to have delivered 4000 hours of Ls auditing which amounts to 2500 hours in the last two years or $250 000 per year just from the Ls where around $100 000/year seem to have been unreported to IRS) In one year period alone Pierre provided to Trey in excess of 300 hours unpaid services. Despite that fact Trey went ahead with to spread rumors about Pierre and had the arrogance to insist that Pierre have to serve his practice as a slave ( at NO PAY!).

Pierre Ethier also had NO knowledge and has NO association with the intimidating “agreement” used by Trey Lotz on his Preclears , where Preclears seem to have been asked to contract themselves out of legal rights. ( Link to the document as published by Trey’s PCs) . Pierre Ethier does NOT approve practices based on intimidation and disprove this supressive document that could potentially prevent a Preclear from spiritual gains.  .

Below is a quote by LRH that explains that the Upper Bridge should not be misused. This applies for the Ls , OT Levels , Flag Only Rundowns, NOTs and other Upper Bridge actions.

“The lower levels of Scientology are quite innocent. Only the upper grades could be harmful if misused and these are only placed in the hands of experts” L. Ron Hubbard in “ Is Scientology Dangerous”


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What about the role of the Case Supervisor ( C/S) in upper level rundowns?

Field auditors affiliated with the Corporate Church of Scientology deliver auditing up to Clear and typically have NO EXPERIENCE in delivering upper levels. Field auditors refer their PC to the Orgs for 15% FSM commission which they receive for services purchased by the PC from the Church. A field auditor usually comes out in the free field with no experience auditing beyond Clear and lacks the discipline to audit under C/S..

Flag only rundowns (which Pierre studied and delivered – e.g. Original Super Power Rundown, Knowledge Rundown , Case Cracker Rundown , New Vitality Rundown , Fixated Person Rundown , Dynamic Sort-out Assessment , NOTs Stability Rundown, Held Down Seven Rundown, Int. by Dynamics Rundown, Havingness Rundown , The Prosperity Rundown, The Money Rundown, Profession Intensive ) address variety of handlings like money and spiritual difficulties, issues, ethics , case situations and other. The Ls , Flag Only Rundowns [Delivered at Flag Only] , NOTs [Delivered only in Advanced Organizations / Sea Orgs] , Power and Superpower require advanced auditor skills and trained C/S. The above rundowns should not be delivered without the supervision of a trained C/S. C/S training is required as some of the handlings are in the C/S materials. The authentic Flag Only Rundowns materials have not been released in the Free Field

The C/S series came out in 1970-es. Any claims that one has been trained as a C/S before that are untrue! “Dishonesty cuts persons reach” and fraudulent claims are only motivated by GREED. One must be pretty desperate to lie and deliberately mislead about their training and attests.

Short response to Marty Rathbun and Mark Rinder or are you both (Rathbun and Rinder) calling David Mayo a liar?- written by Catherine Ethier (Re: OT VIII and above)

Good morning Gentleman,

I am not going to engage myself with personal insults and profanities as you do. Your own past deeds speak for themselves. I also mean no disrespect! What I want to address is your offensive language showing poor taste and the personal attacks in the exert below. We also wish NO part of your rude exchanges!

I also want to make a side mention about the quality of the influencing crowd spreading rumors  and “opinions”  about Pierre on your blogs – one is a “FreeZoner” who Mark Rathbun is often praising on his blog as a close friend and who funnels money to him. The very same individual has made a considerable attempt to take the roof over the head of my disabled teenage child and attempted an intimidation extortion scheme in order to profit by trying to get my family homeless. This out of GREED. Speaks volumes! 

One lesson for everyone else: ” Carefully choose your people and your sources!”

Below is an audio tape by David Mayo who talks about LRH developing the OT levels above OT VIII. This with Maoy’s words directly addresses your (Rathbun’s and Rinder’s) claims. David Mayo worked close to LRH and saw the upper levels, so I would say that Maoy’s words are first hand knowledge. You both inclusive ( Rinder and Rathbun) were  NEVER close to LRH , so whatever you say would be at best “a hear say” . True enough you were both close to David Miscavige. In addition it seems that you both (Rinder and Rathbun) do not believe that you can evolve to treat others  with respect and kindness, so to engage in civilized dialogue without insults, I do not see the reason why are you are looking for the advanced levels, perhaps they are NOT for you.  Perhaps you want to call David Mayo a lair for saying that he saw OT IX and above  and you have directly labeled as “self importance”  the fact that Pierre has chosen to believe David Mayo’s first hand knowledge instead of your “hear say “rumors. Below is an audio record of  David Mayo’s own words:LRH continue researching the levels above that and eventually completed through what’s called OT XI” What do you have to say about that ? There must be a real good reason why one (referring to Rathbun and Rinder) is willfully “blind” to the obvious and unwilling to engage in civilized conversation but instead resorts in one sided personal attacks! I was led to believe that real OTs are skillful in communication in which you both ( Rathbun and Rinder) had proven  disappointing deficiency by expressing juvenile labels and engaging in undeserved personal attacks. Apparently the constructive communication ability is seriously lacking. ( My 2 cents! written By Catherine Ethier)

David Mayo says 3:15 – “LRH continue researching the levels above that and eventually completed through what’s called OT XI”

David Mayo was the senior spiritual technical person who L. Ron Hubbard initially entrusted to oversee the whole Scientology spiritual practice legacy in 1982, when the aging Hubbard realized he didn’t have many years left. Mayo’s title was the Senior Case Supervisor International. Mayo fell from grace just months after the April 1982 20 page despatch from Hubbard where Hubbard detailed to Mayo what Hubbard wanted. This talk discusses that 20 page despatch and other relavant events. This talk is one of several dozen talks recorded of David Mayo speaking in 1983 or 1984 at the center in Santa Barbara where David’s group of ex official Scientologists were based. Mayo’s Scientology splinter group probably formed the largest and most skilled schism group of ex official Scientologists in the history of the Scientology movement, and from these tapes of Mayo’s group’s informal weekly graduation ceremonies, it can be heard that his schism group’s offered services were almost the same services official Scientology delivers, with just different names. Mayo’s group operated within a milder atmosphere, minus the harsher atmosphere of official Scientology. Mayo’s Santa Barbara group was hit with suits and infiltration by official Scientologists and the Mayo group fell apart within a few years. But while it was operating, Mayo’s group constituded the largest schism group in the Scientology movement’s 60 or so years of history so far.
– Chuck Beatty, ex Scientology (Sea Org) staffer 1975-2003

Other sources about the upper OT Levels you can find here:

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/ot-viii-and-beyond/

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“Curiosus | January 19, 2013 at 10:49 am | Reply

According to Pierre Ethier, Hubbard actually developed OT 9 to 15 aboard the Apollo. Class XII auditors have been shown these materials. The Ls are fragments of these levels.

Could another class XII confirm?
martyrathbun09 ( Marty Rathbun) | January 19, 2013 at 1:29 pm | Reply

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mrinder ( Mark Rinder) | January 19, 2013 at 3:26 pm | Reply

Pierre seems to have a self-importance button about having a hidden data line. Being a “Class XII” doesnt make you an authority any more than being an “OT VIII” does, or for that matter a Patron Meritorious with knobs on.

Its been 27 years since LRH’s passing. IF there really were OT levels beyond OT VIII they would have been released by now…. You can only “go on hoping” for so long before you have to conclude that whatever stories you may have heard just are not true.

There are people who post on this blog (RussW and DanK) who worked in RTRC — the technical compilation unit responsible for taking all the notes and ideas that LRH had and turning them into issued format. They have a much higher likelihood of knowing about the supposed “further OT levels” than Pierre or anyone else.

Sooner or later you just have to confront reality. They don’t exist. It’s an empirical FACT. Rumor, stories, hearsay, hidden data, wishful thinking — none of them create reality. And the reality is, there are no OT levels above OT VIII. If they did exist, Miscavige would have issued them LONG before now to keep sucking the bucks out of the biggest cash cows….

Of course, you can pretend they DO exist and are just hidden from view somewhere, waiting for the appropriate time for release. But confronting the physical universe reality — they do not exist. Nobody can show them to you. They are like the Abominable Snowman. Some people will just keep believing it exists, I guess forever. And there isn’t really much you can do about it as it’s pretty hard to prove something DOESNT exist because it COULD be somewhere out of sight. But if nobody sees it for 25 years or 50 years or 100 years — it’s a pretty safe bet that it doesnt exist.

Wake up and smell the coffee…”

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Quote: “Sometime people around you won’t understand your journey. They do not need to. It is not for them!”

Perhaps the OT journey is not for you!

WARNING

Pierre Ethier has NOT trained Trey Lotz and has NOT provided Ls materials to Trey Lotz! Pierre has NO connection with Trey!

Note from admin

Pierre Ethier does not endorse any groups , associations and independent auditors. Pierre Ethier DOES NOT endorse the delivery of the Ls by other auditors or trainees. Please be warned that there were multiple instances when auditors have been fraudulently claiming that Pierre Ethier is C/S-ing their practice and on few occasions have been fraudulently charging the PC under a false pretence.

Pierre Ethier DOES NOT endorse the delivery of the Ls by other auditors or trainees, this specifically apply to TREY LOTZ whom Pierre Ethier never actually trained on L12 nor L10 after too many flubs,and insisting on auditing pcs that were clearly not setup, (ignoring FLUNKS and explicit interdiction from Pierre as the C/S), in addition to Trey refusal to correct on L11 and on chronically missing witholds on his pcs. Trey Lotz has NOT completed & attested training and is NOT certified by Pierre Ethier to deliver the Ls . According to Trey Lotz he informed his public that Pierre is not C/Sing for him. Karen de La Carriere has confirmed that she has never C/Sed for Trey Lotz nor trained him on the Ls. She has not provided him any Ls materials either.

Pierre Ethier does not engage in the distribution of copyrighted materials, despite of roomers and innuendos from Trey Lotz and his associates.

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Field auditors affiliated with the Corporate Church of Scientology deliver auditing up to Clear and typically have NO EXPERIENCE in delivering upper levels .Field auditors refer their PC to the Orgs for 15% FSM commission which they receive for services purchased by the PC from the Church. A field auditor usually comes out in the free field with no experience auditing beyond Clear and lacks the discipline to audit under C/S..

Flag only rundowns (which Pierre studied and delivered – e.g. Original Super Power Rundown, Knowledge Rundown , Case Cracker Rundown , New Vitality Rundown , Fixated Person Rundown , Dynamic Sort-out Assessment , NOTs Stability Rundown, Held Down Seven Rundown, Int. by Dynamics Rundown, Havingness Rundown , The Prosperity Rundown, The Money Rundown, Profession Intensive ) address variety of handlings like money and spiritual difficulties, issues, ethics , case situations and other. The Ls , Flag Only Rundowns [Delivered at Flag Only] , NOTs [Delivered only in Advanced Organizations / Sea Orgs] , Power and Superpower require advanced auditor skills and trained C/S. The above rundowns should not be delivered without the supervision of a trained C/S. C/S training is required as some of the handlings are in the C/S materials. The authentic Flag Only Rundowns materials have not been released in the Free Field.

Frequently Asked Questions

Do you still audit?

Pierre Ethier  is supporting an exclusive and limited circle of public, who maintain ethical standards and are dedicated to standard tech and spiritual advancement. Pierre does not support other practices and discourage mixing practices. Pierre accepts new public only after a case assessment.

Pierre makes any recommendations and discuss further arrangements only after a thorough case assessment with the one who have shown to be truly dedicated to spiritual advancement . 

Can you share the list of the trained Class XIIs?

Below is the list of the trained Class XII.  There are fraudulent claims by people who have not been trained or have not attested.  The names of the auditors personally trained by LRH are well documented in the Apollo Crew List and other documents. The original 8 Class XIIs that were trained by LRH are listed in the following link:

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/11/19/list-of-the-original-8-lrh-trained-class-xii-s/

The list of all Class XIIs that were ever made was compiled in 1998:

http://community.freezone-tech.info/pierre-ethier/pierre-ethier/complete-list-of-all-class-xii-auditors-ever-made/

Do you travel to provide onsite auditing?

Pierre Ethier no longer travels, his time currently is predominantly dedicated to research. His travels are related only to completion of ongoing cycles.

Can you recommend auditors in my area?

It has proven that in order to recommend an auditor Pierre has to consistently oversee his/hers practice , training and ethical standards. On other hand for every Preclear there are case specific requirements that have to be addressed. Some auditors who are good auditing the lower bridge , might lack training on the upper bridge. For the above reasons any recommendations can be done only after a thorough assessment of the  auditor and additional case assessment of the Preclear , along with consistent Case Supervision.

I am in a need of repair due to bad auditing. Any recommendations?

Often this kind of situation is related to some sort of ethics situation. On one hand the poor choice of auditor shows  low perceptions. It was your responsibility to choose wisely and verify your auditor’s claims and credentials versus actual objective outcomes of his practice. (Reference: Dishonesty cuts persons reach HCO Bulletin 1 May 1985 “Honesty and Case Gain”:

 https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/09/11/dishonesty-cuts-persons-reach/) .

You will have to deal with your personal ethics in order improve your ability to make wise decisions. On other hand auditors that mislead or defraud about  their credentials are out ethics. One example is the delivery of the Ls. Most of the fixes for the Ls are in the C/S materials. This is why the role of the C/S is vital and auditor needs advanced training that has been typically provided at Flag.

I was getting auditing in the Church. I am considering auditing in the Free field. Would I be able to get my folders?

This is a question that you should be directing to the Church.

Do you respond anonymous correspondence?

No. Anonymous exchange is an indication of some sort of ethics situation. Perhaps you should consider resolving it first.

Do you provide assistance with requests for refunds from the Church of Scientology?

No. 

Do you distribute copyrighted materials?

Absolutely not, despite of rumors and innuendos from Trey Lotz and his associates.

What about delivery of the Ls in the Free Field?

The Ls are designed to be delivered by Flag trained Class XIIs. There is a huge difference between a Flag trained auditor and a field auditor. Below is a Quote by Karen De La Carierre , Class XII C/S: 

“I soon discovered that a “Field Class VIII” did not mean a Flag Class VIII. And so I re-did all my internships and then trained up to Class XII…”

Rumors that Pierre has trained Trey Lotz to deliver the Ls are also untrue.  Pierre did attempt to train Trey Lotz on L11 , Trey committed gross auditing errors , refused correction and never sent a video for evaluation, yet made many unreasonable demands. Trey Lotz never attested nor completed Ls training with Pierre. Trey Lotz is a field auditor, never worked in an advanced organization and has mostly experience auditing the Lower Bridge . It is a well known fact that as a field auditor Trey was forbidden per Church Policy to audit any Upper Level Rundowns and OT Levels. He lacked the discipline  and the training to audit under the supervision of a C/S and lacked experience  to address the complexity of the Upper Bridge . There is vital information for the Ls in the C/S materials and for an auditor with no experience in the Upper Bridge to deliver the Ls without a C/S is reckless. In addition many of the  references related to the Ls are in the Class X , Class XI and Class XII materials and Trey is only Class VIII. When Trey Lotz promotes 40 000 hours on the chair , this means that his experience is overwhelmingly  in the Lower Bridge, which is not as complex as the Upper Bridge. L11 was designed by LRH to be delivered in a week , however Trey Lotz was chronically delivering it on numerous occasions in a duration of 4 months. This information is also broadly documented on the internet in various public releases by Trey’s PCs. Additional out tech was present in Trey’s delivery and Pierre wish NO association with Trey Lotz.

A number of Trey Lotz PCs have viciously attacked Pierre and his family on Trey’s behalf , this including attacking Pierre’s child due to his disability or making  other vicious and cruel threats. The very same Trey’s PCs also carried out vast smear campaigns about Pierre and claimed to have  made fraudulent reports to the Church and various government agencies . A PC of Trey claims to have partnered with the Church in attacking Pierre to uphold Trey’s financial interests , claimed to have paid $30 000 to investigate Pierre in order to ruin his auditing practice and take Pierre’s home with intention of unfairly profiting and putting his disabled child homeless, published on the internet Pierre’s bank account and private phone numbers with an invitation  to harass Pierre. This was an organized effort of associates of Trey Lotz in a partnership with the Church to silence and dead agent Pierre in order prevent him from auditing. This evil plot eventually fired back on them.   Such a behavior is practically shameless and  it is sad to see such  EVIL outcome has been produced by a practitioner out of GREEDEVIL is a poor product! We hope that one day the above people will realize that seeking to destroy people of good will (like Pierre) is NOT the road to spiritual enlightenment. This also applies to their enablers and associates. In all cases these PCs were prized and socially rewarded  by Trey Lotz despite of their EVIL  behavior seeking to destroy a person of good will. Good people who had voiced private concerns directly to Trey Lotz , had been also threatened by the very same PCs.

 Trey Lotz NEVER made any advanced payments to Pierre to book or schedule his time and to cover Pierre’s time and expenses with a fair exchange . Rumors and innuendos from Trey Lotz and his associates in that regard are also untrue.  Pierre who spent 20 years in the Sea Org at almost no pay , had covered out of his own pocket many advanced and initial expenses , as well as ongoing expenses related Trey, who had spent his time as a field auditor at the rate of  around $160 000/ year. (based on Trey’s own reports to IRS  for tax exemption 2004 ,2001 – this is exactly like the Church- merely mentioning the facts here! Also  based on Trey Lotz own boosting to have delivered 4000 hours of Ls auditing which amounts to 2500 hours in the last two years or $250 000 per year just from the Ls where around $100 000/year seem to have been unreported to IRS) In one year period alone Pierre provided to Trey in excess of 300 hours unpaid services. 

Below is a quote by LRH that explains that the Upper Bridge should not be misused. This applies for the Ls , OT Levels , Flag Only Rundowns, NOTs and other Upper Bridge actions.

“The lower levels of Scientology are quite innocent. Only the upper grades could be harmful if misused and these are only placed in the hands of experts” L. Ron Hubbard in “ Is Scientology Dangerous”


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Related:

 https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/warning/

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/flag-trained-auditors/

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/09/11/flag-only-rundowns-mastered-by-flag-auditors-only/

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/why-interships-are-so-vital-for-the-auditor-delivering-the-ls/

All information contained, written and/or supplied shall be deemed to be without prejudice and is intended only for general education use.

Click here for a summary of concerns about delivery of the Ls in the FreeZone/ Independent field by Karen De La Carriere

Other related articles:

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/vital-information-about-the-ls-rundowns/

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/programs/why-interships-are-so-vital-for-the-auditor-delivering-the-ls/

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/articles/the-sad-fate-of-lisa-mcpherson/

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Why interships are so vital for the auditor delivering the Ls

Below is a summary of concerns raised by Karen De La Carriere in regard to the lack of proper auditor training for delivery of the Ls in the independent field. I want to thank Karen for raising this concern and taking the safety of the PCs at heart.

I strongly believe that auditors who really care about their PCs will undergo the proper training, including internships, studies and drills as described by Karen. The independent field needs to adhere to higher standards.

December 21, 2011

Karen De La Carriere: ….[name omitted ] ….. “never had any Ls training. He certainly did not have the very complex and unique training of Class X, XI and Class XII. There is an enormous study of LRH CSed folders and special testsn to understand why LRH CSed that way. ” ….[name omitted ] ….” never came anywhere near this section of the training.”

Karen De La Carriere : “ The Ls are like a Ferrari. Most people can drive one up to 100mph but the minute you get into 150 mph, when things so wrong, they go terribly wrong. The Ls are high performance spiritual work that require expert handling by qualified Ls auditors. This requires interneships and not done by reading ‘hat write ups”.”

Karen De La Carriere : “When something goes wrong …either in a high performance vehicle or intense spiritual work ~~ the results can be catastrophic if one does not know how to recover from trouble. Lisa Mcpherson, 3 weeks after L-11 (see the image on the web o…f her proudly displaying her L-11 Cert and smiling) went Type III, taking off her clothes and walking naked on Fort harrison Avenue. This is an example of how badly it can backfire.”

Karen De La Carriere : “What we are discussing is an expanded range, that which can boost you so high spiritually and take you into the lofty heights of heaven can also backfire in the other direction and send you into hell.”

Karen De La Carriere: “ I will never participate in any action that does not guarantee the safety and well being of pcs. Only knowing, training and understanding the length an breadth of the procedures and their remedies can give the results LRH intended for these rundowns.”

Karen De La Carriere : “One example of how Interneships are so vital is that the AUDITING STYLE of Ls auditing is different. You have to un-do all the TRs 1-4 you have ever learned all your life and learn “TR L10 style” It is designed to impact the case differe…ntly. This needs to be drilled and drilled and drilled on video and one has to watch one’ own videos day after day, month after month til one has perfected one’s performance and til it is second nature. There is nothing in the field in current set ups that can even come near approximating Ls training. Each interneship takes MONTHS of 40 hour to 60 hours in the chair of flawless VWD sessions for graduation to be approved. But the pc is the beneficiary and is now in safe hands. The safety and guaranteed stability of the pc is the primary importance here. To hell with any other consideration than the PC and the PC’s benefit.”

The Sad Fate of Lisa McPherson

 

Lisa McPherson

If the full Lisa McPherson story can teach us something, it is not so much what can happen if someone applies a Technology harmfully, but rather what happens when a group of otherwise well-meaning people becomes the adverse effect of a self-appointed Elite whose goal has solely become to maintain their Power through Terror.

SYNOPSIS

I have limited my study of the McPherson case to first hand reports, namely from Interviews and Hearings conducted by the Florida State Attorneys, subpoenaed records and “daily watch reports” that are publicly available. I have read them in their entirety.

The most crucial piece of evidence (Lisa’s Pc’s folders) is lacking due to having been reportedly “lost”. If Lisa’s folders had indeed been lost in what turns out to be one of the most high profile case in the entire Church History, RTC would have ordered a literal army of Sea Org members and even public to work around the clock for an entire week, if needed. Such a loss would have never been accepted if RTC had been at the unwilling end of it. Therefore the fact that Lisa’s folder loss was anything but deliberate and calculated is by far the most plausible explanation.
While I have not been involved with that case nor possess any first hand knowledge of what took place on her last day, my thorough knowledge of Scientology Technology and Procedures and great familiarity with that type of case condition (which I have been called dozens of times to handle personally as one of the very few experienced Introspection Rundown Specialists on the planet), allows me to make a surprising number of conclusions with the data that is available. Further I know all technical personnel involved very well.

THE “WHO” (according to RTC)

Only a Class XII is fully capable of grasping the irony of Web sites dedicated to Lisa McPherson showing her holding her L-11 Certificate signed by Peter Buttery and by David Gellie.

In Scientologese, the Who is the Individual or individuals found to be responsible for any situation adversely affecting the Church.

The unfortunate individuals found to be the who by RTC were both Class XIIs, who C/Sed and audited Lisa through her “L-11 completion” , a mere 3 weeks before her Psychotic Break, They were promptly ordered “PERMANENTLY OFF Tech Lines” by RTC. They are currently working, the former as a janitor, the later as a Bus Driver and are explicitly forbidden to be transferred out of their menial jobs unless so ordered by RTC. “They may never hold a Technical Post again”

It is said that in a confidential Memo a Senior Management individual stated: “They caused Lisa McPherson to die, so they deserve the same fate as Auditors.” So they are considered “dead” as Auditors and as long as they pledge allegiance to the Mother Church they will be forbidden to ever audit again. Their long tracks of several decades of dedicated service and Technical accomplishments, some of it directly under LRH, was according to RTC, the only thing that prevent their savage expulsion, prosecution or an imaginative way to degrade and humiliate them further THE “HOW”

The irony of Lisa holding her L11 Certificate, all smiling is that L11 was originally designed to resolve and prevent the very condition she soon after fell in, This can only be fully appreciated by someone who has done the Class XI course.

Shortly after completing L11, Lisa was put on a lengthy O/W write up that went on for weeks, and without getting any corrective sessions in spite of her bad indicators increasing.
O/W write-ups are a routinely short term action to be done as part of a condition handling. One spends hours writing O/W Write-ups, not days or weeks.
Making someone spend weeks on it, is merely an invitation for the pc to chew on bank and to Introvert, as the individual is continually made to look inwards at his guilt feelings without any direction or guidance. Severe Introversion and feelings of guilt is very evident in her write up.
It used to be routine to send a person to the examiner after each O/W write-up, to ensure they feel good. This apparently is no longer being done at Flag. Apparently the deep guilt someone or introversion someone may feel after a mishandled or overrun O/W write is no longer a concern in COS any longer, but on the contrary, expected to occur.
Unfortunately such offbeat Ethics Handlings (which are actually not part of Scientology technology, contrarily to the teachings of RTC who claim otherwise) have become common place in the current COS. These are not the product of LRH tech, but are solely RTC own brand of Tech alteration, based on the case Manifestations of its promoters and their frantic desire to maintain their power.. (It is a technical fact that people will instinctively seek to program others for the very action that they themselves need).
The Current Bridge as currently promoted by RTC has degenerated in nothing else than a Huge and Monstrous Grade 2 (Overt and Withold Technology) where Dianetics, Clear and OT levels has become mere interruptions and side-trips on the overall program.

TECHNICAL DATA

According to Scientology Technology, an illness (covered in the Assist Bulletins) or even a psychotic Break (covered in the Introspection Rundown Bulletin are both preceded by a “predisposition” and a “precipitation”.
A predisposition is defined as a susceptibility or propensity for something. It is what makes the mind liable or likely to be affected by some particular thing. Being tired, living in an invalidative environment, recent flagrant auditing errors, are examples of predisposition By precipitation is meant the occurrence of an incident where what was being predisposed now comes to fruition.

In the case of an illness it is generally the incident that brings about the infection. In the case of a psychotic break, it is the moment of introversion where the person actually looses control.
One sees this type of phenomenon in the expression: “The straw that broke the camel back”.
Adding straws, one after the other is the predisposition. The actual straw that breaks the camel’s back is the precipitation.
In the case of Lisa McPherson, it looks like a virtual certainty for all available data that L-11 was the predisposition. L11 is designed to resolve and even prevent the very condition in which she sank! In addition there are a number of originations that are telltale signs of specific unflat L11 steps . During the early days of her “non-sequitur talk”: she was in actual fact talking directly out of restimulated and unflat L11 steps. This is an expected phenomenon. It is possible for the well trained individual to sieve through the apparent babble of natter, screams or “non-sequitur talk” to track down the root cause of the condition.
It is actually the first step done by an auditor in the introspection rundown. By making the “correct indication”, it is entirely possible, as I have done it dozens of times, to miraculously turn off the insane babble and restore, at least temporarily and slightly sanity to the individual.
The offbeat O/W Write up was the precipitation. This is completely obvious from a number of her comments and actions.
In the actual psychotic Break Episode, she says he needs help. She should have been red tagged right then and there, as she obviously had immediate BPC on her current action (O/W write ups and most likely others as well) By going through her pc folders and recent reports and write up, an indication should have been made to her. This should have been made within hours of the Psychotic Break, not days later. This was never done.

A BOTCHED L-11 RUNDOWN

If a trained Class XII examines some of her “early non-sense” he can actually see that it actually makes perfect sense and give vital clue as to what is wrong, even though she didn’t know it.

  1. On the 18th (the psychotic Break episode), she says she needs help
  2. Once in isolation she says the following things (meaningless babble to the average person, but extremely meaningful a Class XI auditor in the light of the fact she only recently did L-11)

“I created time 3 billion years ago and now I am dramatizing it since than.”
This is a Clear indication of a specific unflat L-11 step meant to handle the key dramatization on the whole track in a case.
“I am LRH and I didn’t confront it because I didn’t confront that power.”
This is an identity or valence problem, a typical sign of a list error on L-11 as some lists will give exact valences. There is an unblown Valence/Identity.
Her statement: “I can’t confront force. I am dramatizing it.”
More signs of Unflat L-11 which is meant to handle the key aberration on a case.
“I was 1.1. What my chronic tone level is.”
This is a Clear sign of introversion, and guilt, which became quite apparent on her O/W Write up.
“I disseminated my mother, but she didn’t get handled. As I didn’t confront force.”

Either a wrong item from L-11 or from Ethics or she is PTS to her Mother. (in which case she should have handled it
BEFORE L-11)
” I need my auditor…”
“Needing auditing is the typical manifestation of auditing error, most specifically out-lists which cause the most
case deterioration on a case.
I need to confront my mom.
PTS to her Mother (among other things).
Next report : “You have to follow the light as Light is life”.
This is a textbook Whole Track Implant description.
A Key implant on the case is one of the key steps of L-11. This is yet another indicator that her L11 was botched.

THE REAL REASON (THE “WHY”)

Sadly, RTC policy toward the prevention of disaffection and dissent has been to instill a regime of Terror.

This was originally done through assignment to the RPF and expulsion from the Church.

As time went on, cruel and long lasting cruel and humiliating punishment became the norm.

People who work at the Flag land Base and have joined the Sea Org, have typically donated all their assets to the Church and are already working in excess of 60 hours a week for little or no pay. In cases of “Down statistics” and emergencies” hours grow even longer and what little benefit one would get even becomes smaller. Deprivation of Food, sleep, and privacy, cancellation of right to meet one’s spouse or underage children are among the first penalties enforced to all group members..

Already hardened by these harsh conditions, the RPF has slowly become, through the years, in many aspects, an actual improvement over the average condition a Sea Org member, to the point that a the threat of an RPF assignment is no longer carry the weight that it once did.

RTC answer has been to remove from the group of unfortunates who work for them in a state more akin to slavery than ever prison would offer the only asset they still possess: their Dignity and their Integrity.

Dignity is removed by broad publication of unilateral findings against an individual. Whereas Scientology Policy dictates a sort of Justice Hearing or Court called a Committee of Evidence, those are very seldom done. Justice being served by pronouncing people based on evidence the individual has not be allowed to confront or dispute. In other words the Accuser, Judge, Jury and Executioner is one and the same individual or group of individuals. In RTC vision of “Justice” the Accusation, Judgement and Sentencing are now performed as a single step and in most cases no appeal is possible.

There seems to be no limit to RTC’s imagination in creating new forms of Torments calculated to degrade and debase the individual receiving their brand of Justice.

New posts with degraded titles get created and the people are assigned to it. People are forced to make public confessions eerily reminiscent of the Stalinist Purges, Marriage are ordered broken, children in actual fact become wards of Church and are raised in a manner entirely consistent with Germany’s infamous “Hitler’s Youths. of the 1930s”

Therefore the prime motivation of most staff, though none would dare admitting it, in an organization where merely having such thoughts is a punishable act, is to “AVOID DRAWING RTC’s NOTICE”.

This eerie duplication of George Orwell’ “Thought Police” comes as a result of RTC’s obsession with implementing the “False Purpose Rundown Technology” at every level and its widespread and frequent use.

A SOCIETY COMPOSED OF MINDLESS ROBOTS

The False Purpose Rundown seeks not only confessions of any “reprehensible acts”, but will demand the admission of any and all negative or critical thoughts about the Church Leadership and Policies. The idea is to nip any such disagreements in the bud, by inferring that any disagreement with the current Leadership or Policies is an Overt and that it can only exist in the presence of unrevealed “crimes” against the Church. For that purpose the word crime has been redefined in Scientology to no longer mean such things as Murder and Rape, but rather “omissions” and “failures to take all the necessary actions” that would have been required to prevent any downfall or “lowering of statistics” within the Church. The fact that in most cases, the downfalls and down statistics could only have been prevented by someone with the psychic abilities to foretell the Future as in “20/20 Hindsight” is of no concern to RTC.
To the experienced staff member the only way to salvage oneself is by “Not disagreeing” with anything and to not even form within his mind even the shadow of a Doubt.
The end result is “utter robotism”. Creative thought has become so suppressed and even “Dangerous” that individuals no longer dare making them.. LRH amply describes the characteristics of Robotism in the Expanded Dianetics Materials and a Number of other Bulletins.
People suffering from Robotism and Slaves share a lot in common. Both will avoid taking responsibility and can no longer think clearly. they can no longer confront the environment that surrounds them and they instinctively tend to ignore or “forget” their prior knowledge. They will disregard any moral choices or “common sense” but rather adhere to “safe” if unprodictive protocols. They have isolated themselves from the painful and terrifying environment by allowing circuitry to take over.
By understanding the above, one can now clearly undeerstand the actions of people who were either trained in some way in the medical field, or should have known that they should be “doing something” more.

WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE

The first thing that should have been done when the C/S and Snr C/S heard of Lisa’s psychotic reaction, would have been to do an “Folder Error Summary” of her applicable recent auditing. This would have taken at most a few hours.

Then an auditor with the correct training Level and experienced with the Introspection Rundown and L-11 should have made the right indication to Lisa McPherson, wether she could be put on the meter or not, until some type of relief took place.

When I left the in 1992, I was the only auditor fully trained in both Rundowns. It is quite likely with all auditors having been put shortly after, onto “Golden age of Tech training”, that by the time Lisa needed it, there was still no auditor qualified to do both Rundowns.

A small note in a one of the report, actually indicates the true viewpoint of all people involved. It should have been to care for the person in front of them, to truly help her.
Unfortunately the note said that that the purpose of “Watching” Lisa was to take care (or prevent) a Flap. This is the sordid true purpose that Sea Org have degenerated to.

Staff no longer wishes to Help people of make them free as their prime Purpose. Preventing flaps (Flaps are a virtual guarantee that RTC would descend on those it pronounced guilty with all the expected savagery of a sharpened guillotine) are now considered the paramount desire of Staff members.
Individuals exhibiting the symptoms described above are clearly PTS themselves.

PTS individuals make mistakes. It seems to have never dawned on RTC that by creating the dangerous environment they have, that previously flubless auditors have now lost their skills and would make major blunders in Lisa McPherson’s case.

The invention of the “Golden Age of Tech” is just another unusual solution to handle auditors who flub due to their exposure to a dangerous (suppressive) environment. De-PTSing them would have been the answer, but it would also mean loosing control.

The most easily controlled people are PTS. Robotism is merely a manifestation of PTSness.

This is no coincidence that countless battered spouses will neither complain nor leave their partner. They are utterly PTS and hence utterly controlled.

Robots are the perfect example of something that is utterly controlled.

Therefore, RTC share a far greater responsibility than David Gellie and Peter Buttery in causing Lisa’s condition. David and Peter’s error was primarily to become PTS and ignoring it. (RTC made that handling impossible).

THE OFF-BEAT TECHNOLOGY OF WATCHING

In Lisa McPherson case, a number of inept watchers are being brought one after the other into her room. Many show very little ARC for Lisa (it takes truly exceptional TRs to show genuine affinity to a person in that condition- something one cannot expect from anybody but a veteran auditor.
These watchers became a major source of disruption for Lisa. She became increasingly violent with them, and it is obvious in some reports that some of them felt animosity toward her. Of interest is that the only person with whom Lisa never became violent was the only one who showed great ARC. Paradoxically, it was the youngest and less experienced of all watchers, a 17 year old girl called Heather.
Unfortunately the concept of 8C has become perverted over the years. 8c simply means smooth and effective control.
Dianetics 55 clearly demonstrates that 8C can only really exist in the presence of ARC.
In fact it is a key component of the Two Key interacting Triangles in Scientology ARC (Affinity, Reality, Communication) and KRC (Knowledge, Responsibility, Control).
Unfortunately in the Sea Org , 8C has become all too often synonym with coerced or manipulative control, which a perversion of the term. There continual reports of doing 8C on Lisa which in this context simply means to force her to do something.
According to an early report, Lisa had trouble swallowing. As time went on, she would either refuse or reject any food.
The answer of the watchers were to force feed her (not with a syringe but with the crude medieval method of shoving it into her mouth.
A PTS Type III individual sees suppressives everywhere. How can a person in that condition react, when faced with people who attempt some sort of violence (force feeding, prevented from leaving or from pacing). The watchers soon became, as far as Lisa was concerned,active Suppressives in the present time environment. On that standpoint alone, one could not expect anything, but severe deterioration to take place.
AS far as Lisa case was concerned, New “Present Time Suppressives” had been added to her environment. and it became that much more unsafe.
LRH states that the ultimate result of Suppression is Death. Therefore from the point the coercive environment in which Lisa lived became firmly established, her fate was sealed.
It does not require a PhD in Medicine to conclude that a person who has trouble swallowing has either some disease or infection or at the very least requires immediate Medical attention. Wouldn’t any normal, or even uneducated parent seeing their child in that state, not seek instant medical attention? Even any Dog lover would have rushed his pet to the Vet if he had exhibited Lisa’s symptoms.
In addition to the disruption caused by low ARC people and a continual change of watchers (each watcher inevitably sees the watch as a penalty as she must endure significant hardship without any compensation).
Typically watchers are assigned to people who are doing lower condition and therefore are already in some form of “Robotic state” Obviously a person who holds an unrealistically long watch (16 hours will start to show impatience, lack of alertness),

This can only result in harming the person being watched.

Sleeping in the company of the psychotic is yet another form of disruption. Since one is completely vulnerable when he sleeps, the person who is deeply PTS will perceive anyone, especially a stranger as threat and a reason to remain awake. Making watchers sleep with a person in a psychotic is a complete Violation of all LRH materials on the Subject of PTS and Psychotics.

The watchers have the false data, that as long as they do not verbally talk to the person, other forms of communication is OK. This is invented Technology and is contrary to all LRH data on Psychotics.

This is based on a misunderstanding of the original bulletins that deal with the subject.
One keeps absolute silence around a person in the middle of a psychotic break episode. This is the actual incident where the psychotic break manifest itself. This is not the whole duration of the isolation period! The reason for the silence is that on a normal person the incident is a lock, but on the psychotic this incident is actually an engram and anything uttered will become part of its content and a command to be later dramatized.
In the book “The Creation of Human Ability”there is an utterly silent process. One get a pc to comply with a non verbal command.
This process is seldom run, as it is not part of any standard Rundown or grade, though I have run it on a number of people, including Flag public.
A typical manifestation occurring during the process is the person becoming upset by the auditor utter lack of verbal communication. This eventually blows off, as the process is brought to its rightful conclusion (EP).
This clearly illustrates the fact that any individual in a prolonged condition where is being denied verbal communication can find the episode to be rather unsettling.

Technically, one could argue that the “process of No Verbal Communication” is an actual New case action or process undertaken on a case which needs to complete incomplete cycles, not start new ones.
How would YOU feel, if a group of people would forcibly bring you into a poorly lighted room and would maintain utter silence in your presence, answering any verbal queries through sign language with their insincere smiles. You would most probably think that they feel you have gone mad and that you are being treated like a complete loon.

Indeed this type of actions have been used around the world to unsettle people or even make them feel crazy when they were sane, For the one who has already lost his Mind, one may put the person beyond the reach of any type of help.

If I would expect anything to occur in the presence of these factors (disruptive or indifferent watchers, artificial silence, denial of freedom of movement, it is simply the restimulation of incidents on the tracks about being confined or incarcerated (or in other words: being tapped) There many such incidents on the track. Being trapped is not only one of the key buttons of the bank, but a prolonged enforced confinement could even develop into out-Int phenomenon or restimulation The only person who keeps bringing up suggestion to do something different is Heather, a 17 year old girl. This is ignored.

EPILOGUE

The regime of terror instilled by RTC ruthless reinterpretation of Scientology Tech and Policy has created an organization of robots and automatons.
The only thing RTC has truly achieved is in recent years in gaining blind loyalty from a horde of unthinking individuals.
Even a Medically trained Doctor (Laura Arrunada) took no action on the numerous and flagrant physical ailments symptoms when they seemed completely obvious to the eye of an untrained teenager (Heather).

Most of the other “watchers” appear more concerned about their own problems and only see Lisa as a ” DEV-T (unwanted) particle”. When one realizes the impossible hours, work and demands put on those people for little or no compensation, one can actually understand their behavior, even if one doesn’t condone it.
It is not the misapplication of Scientology that killed Lisa, but rather the blatant refusal to utilize any one of many elements that forms the vast array of available technology by people who have been trained to no longer form self-determined thoughts.
Except for one person, Heather, everyone involved was more interested in pleasing RTC by “preventing a Flap” than helping the person who was begging for help in front of their very eyes.

Pierre Ethier

Class XII

 

 

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  • Black Dianetics and/or reverse processing is often done on the person in an effort to cave him/her in. Black Dianetics is used in the free field by auditors who apply processes sourced by the Church to cave in others or to produce fanatic followers. Typically those auditors never been trained to provide the specific level , lack major data from the rundowns. Their unsuspected subjects rave in euphoria but then constantly get stuck on irrelevant issues, enterbualate and get upset easily. Those kind of people become restimulated, simply unstable and easily manipulated. This is how one produce EVIL, promote EVIL and talk mostly about EVIL doing.
  • When an individual continues to vocalize or write about disagreements with Black PR treatment or anything else about evil practices he/she is being subjected to, a partnership of allies will publish mean-spirited propaganda about that individual. That propaganda inevitably contains the fruits of the personal and private communication and the private life of the targeted individual directed into a smear campaign. Seldom is it done with chapter-and-verse, literal detail which could make the opressor legally accountable. Instead, it is done through a sophisticated and complex propaganda methodology. It requires the development of a dark and evil mindset to create this sort of propaganda.
  •  Ralph Hilton had published an open letter as a part of a Black PR campaign to spread the enemy line around the web. Now over a five years later a crowd of stooges related to the Church are glorifying  Hilton’s full admission of having personal attitude problems , re-stimulation and acting out of EVIL. Ralph Hilton wrote: “I attacked you in return – yes it was evil purposes in restimulation and I know that I woke them up to do it.” It is very wrong to do others in. It is wrong to orchestrate attacks out of your own evil. It is even more wrong to freely advertise your evil intentions like it is something that makes you stand out with promoting your evil and appealing to manipulate the crowd of haters to join you in doing evil to others. Evil remains evil , no matter what shape and form it takes. There is no excuse for evil doing! Be aware that very sadly evil propagates to your associates and allies.

It is time to say ” Enough is Enough” of your evil!

We do not want your evil in our lives!

The Church of Scientology snooping for Tech. Reviews (Humor)

The Church of Scientology is apparently a fan of Pierre’s Technical Reviews. We have documented a recent visit from the Church groupies below:

Date: 13.07.2013

Time: 23:39:46 ( Moscow time zone)

IP198.77.155.102

United States

California

Los Angeles

URL visited: https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/articles/availab…

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https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/01/26/humor/

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/03/01/humor-the-bulgarian-umbrella-for-my-juvenile-stalker/

Contributions to the site welcome

Pierre-Ethier-L12I just wanted to drop you a note and thank you for such a great website. It is truly an oasis in the madness of the Independent field for me. I hope you are doing well. I do look forward to seeing you one day soon. Flourish and prosper, my friend. You are appreciated and admired for the work you do by those of us who want real LRH Tech, not less. That said, I am working on a little idea to contribute to your site. I’ll send that idea along to you to look at. Meanwhile, lots of love and best wishes.

(signed)

Research Project

pierre1Pierre Ethier has invested large amount of resources in acquiring original audio recordings from the early years of Diantetics and Scientology (1951) , most of the materials were never published before. This large acquisition came into existence due to Pierre’s ambitious efforts to invest time and personal resources in Dianetics and Scientology Research. Also a number of fellows contributed gifts-in-kind to this research project.

We may need volunteer  help with transcribing the audio files and perform comparative analysis. I must note that all materials are acquired by legal sources.

Un-compromised personal ethics standard is a condition to participate in this project. If you want to contribute personal time and effort to this project please contact us via the  form below. Please note you will be contacted on as needed basis. Thank you for your kindness and your contributions.

More on Dianetics and Scientology Research Project

Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health

Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

We have acquired materials from several hitherto undiscovered cache. This is an acquisition of very rare, most of them one of a kind and the only copies of  unpublished technical and historical materials from the dawn of Dianetics & Scientology. The Independent field of Scientology goes back to 1951.

The official publications of the Church of Scientology give very little information about the early 1950’s. The history of Dianetics possibly begins in the 1920s. In April 1950, Hubbard and several others established the Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation in Elizabeth, New Jersey to coordinate work related for the forthcoming publication of Dianetics. Hubbard wrote Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health at that time.

The success of selling Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health brought in a flood of money, which Hubbard used to establish Dianetics foundations in six major American cities.

In the early days of Scientology, Hubbard expressed a debt to other thinkers for developing Dianetics. For example, there are a number of references to Freud and Breuer in his 1950 lectures. Hubbard also initially credited U.S. Navy doctor Commander Thompson. The books Science of Survival (1951) and Scientology 8-8008 (1952) both contain acknowledgment lists. However, on 7 February 1965 Hubbard published the Policy Letter “Keeping Scientology Working“, where he said: “Our technology has not been discovered by a group. True, if the group had not supported me in many ways I could not have discovered it either.”

During 1950 demand grew for auditing facilities. Branches of the Foundation were established in Los Angeles, New York, Washington, Chicago and Honolulu. The main auditor training centres were in New Jersey and Los Angeles. Graduates of the four week course were certified as professional auditors.

In parallel with this, ‘grass-roots’ groups emerged who began training themselves and co-auditing. Some publicised their activities in the papers, some wrote to booksellers or the Foundation to make contact with others in their area interested in Dianetics. Extensive written communication took place between the groups and with the Foundation. This correspondence discussed case histories, new ideas on therapy and practice, and ideas on development of the movement. Groups started to produce their own newsletters and the Foundation produced its own journal. This included articles by Hubbard and other Foundation staff plus details of courses and books available,

There was no attempt however by the Foundation to control or structure the field groups. Auditors trained by the Foundation were left to apply their new skill how and where they wished. Some joined or led local groups, others set up as solo-practitioners.

By the autumn of 1950, financial problems had developed, and by November 1950, the six Foundations had spent around one million dollars and were more than $200,000 in debt. Disagreements emerged over the direction of the Dianetic Foundation’s work, and relations between the board members became strained, with several leaving, even to support causes critical of Dianetics. One example was Harvey Jackins, founder of Re-evaluation Counselling.

In January 1951, the New Jersey Board of Medical Examiners instituted proceedings against the Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation in Elizabeth for teaching medicine without a licence. The Foundation closed its doors, causing the proceedings to be vacated, but its creditors began to demand settlement of its outstanding debts. Don Purcell, a millionaire Dianeticist from Wichita, Kansas, offered a brief respite from bankruptcy, but the Foundation’s finances failed again in 1952.

Because of a sale of assets resulting from the bankruptcy, Hubbard no longer owned the rights to the name “Dianetics”,but its philosophical framework still provided the seed for Scientology to grow. Scientologists refer to the book Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health as “Book One.”

More information about Dianetics early years:

 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/townsend/5.htm

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As you all know for many years Pierre Ethier has given free advice, interpretation and references on various standard tech. matters for the personal benefits and advancement of countless Scientologists. On many occasions Pierre had provided free C/Sing and free Programming. Thus donating his time , effort and expertise solely to help others advance.

Pierre has been compiling a Scientology Research library purchasing many rare materials in order to preserve the tech. and to use the materials for research and as a practical reference for standard processing. This project has been heavily sabotaged in the the past, however it came to produce extraordinary good results despite the counter intention and many road blocks. Now the fruits of the hard work have become evident.

Recently we have been approached by benefactors who offered some help for this project. I am happy to see that despite of the many who just want to consume resources without fair exchange, there are some kind people who  actually want to contribute and further help for the development of the Scientology Research Library by sending gifts-in-kind donating materials and monetary resources. I am happy to see that true kindness and care for others is still out there.

Thank you for your gifts-in-kind and your contributions.

True kindness is still out there.

What makes great people are the simple acts of kindness.

Have rare, historical or significant books or materials? Why not make them available for research and beyond?

Pierre Ethier welcomes gifts of materials and monetary donations for research materials from individuals or groups. All materials must be legally obtained without exception. Please contact us if you kindly want to contribute rare, historical books or other materials that you want to make available for technology research for enhancing and preserving standard tech applications. Where possible we will attempt to add the materials into our Research Library based on criteria that apply to the selection of our library materials. It is understood that gifts are freely given without conditions attached

All donations will be considered as Donations of Gifts-In-Kind. You also can make voluntary donation via PayPal.

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THE CRIMINAL MIND

L. Ron Hubbard in Los Angeles, California.

L. Ron Hubbard in Los Angeles, California. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

“THE CRIMINAL MIND

Definition: A criminal is one who is motivated by evil intentions and who has committed so many harmful overt acts that he considers such activities ordinary.

There is a datum of value in detecting overts and withholds in criminal individuals:

THE CRIMINAL ACCUSES OTHERS OF THINGS WHICH HE HIMSELF IS DOING.”

“INDIVIDUALS WITH CRIMINAL MINDS TEND TO BAND TOGETHER SINCE THE PRESENCE OF OTHER CRIMINALS ABOUT THEM TENDS TO PROVE THEIR OWN DISTORTED IDEAS OF MAN IN GENERAL.

It is not true that where any person accuses another of a crime the accuser is always guilty of the crime or that type of crime. But it is true that when a criminal is doing the accusing it is more than probable that the criminal is disclosing his own type of crime”

 

 

L. Ron Hubbard
(HCO Bulletin September 15, 1981 “THE CRIMINAL MIND” “)

Dishonesty cuts person’s reach

L. Ron Hubbard in Los Angeles, California.

L. Ron Hubbard in Los Angeles, California. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Dishonest people have withholds, and withholds stack up mass and bring about stupidity. They cut the person’s reach and his ability to perceive. They hold in place the masses that imprison and pin the being at the level of Homo sapiens— and a miserable Homo sapiens, at that! Who is such a person really fooling?

Thus, one can bar his own way up the Bridge by dishonesty.

I always feel a bit sad when I see somebody doing himself in this way. It is so pointless.

One sees this in those who, for whatever irrational reason, cling knowingly to withholds and wind up critical, nattery and generating hostility. If one finds himself feeling hounded or persecuted, he should ask himself what his condition is on the first dynamic instead of going around persuading others to do him in.

How precious, after all, are one’s dishonesties, withholds and falsities in the face of the real freedom there is to be gained?

One CAN be honest. He will find it a happier, more comfortable existence when he is.

And more important—he’ll find the route to stable case gain is now open to him.

HONESTY OPENS THE DOOR TO CASE GAIN.

That is the route to sanity. It is the route up the Bridge to OT and real freedom. With honesty, one can make it and make it all the way! “

L. Ron Hubbard
(HCO Bulletin 1 May 1985 “Honesty and Case Gain”)

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This is an example of someone “condemned into his own hell” ( LRH quote)  by his auditor , who does not understand that there no case gain for people who are audited over withholds:

“The stick of ethics. Lol! Were I be trying to do L’s at Flag I’d have been routed straight away to ethics and O/W write ups, sec checks, and intense pressure for “indulgences” that would have had Martin Luther spinning in his grave. And I would have walked, no run.  And I’m not including anything here about being an “SP” FZer”

Diantetics and Scientology Research Project

Pierre_Ethier_Reserch_Library

Pierre Ethier has spent many years in Dianetics and Scientology Research dedicated to documenting the technology research for supporting the standard tech application processing and preserving the Scientology Spiritual Technology in its powerful original. His efforts include sustaining of a full line of research materials on Dianetics and Applied Scientology in their unaltered original, including many undocumented contributions.

Currently our Research Library includes Full Runs of all major Scientology Publications as they were originally mailed:

Publications and magazines:

  • Dianetic auditor bulletins ,
  • Professional auditor bulletins “PABS” ,
  •  Journal of Scientology ,
  • Certainty ,
  • Ability “Washington” ,
  • Auditor ,
  • Advance,
  •  Source ,
  • Celebrity and many others.

Other non-sectioned publications:

  • The Aberree
  • Dianotes
  • Dianews
  • ARC Light
  • CADA Journals and Bulletins
  • Free Spirit
  • Bristol Dianetic Review and many others

Full First Editions of books and booklets from the 1950-es, both by L.Ron Hubbard and other Dianeticists and scientologist. (the list is very long).

Large quantity of original Reels to Reels from the 1950-es by both L. Ron Hubbard and his followers and dissenters, and scores of published original materials.

Have rare, historical or significant books or materials? Why not make them available for research and beyond?

Pierre Ethier welcomes gifts of materials and monetary donations for research materials from individuals or groups. All materials must be legally obtained without exception. Please contact us if you kindly want to contribute rare, historical books or other materials that you want to make available for technology research for enhancing and preserving standard tech applications. Where possible we will attempt to add the materials into our Research Library based on criteria that apply to the selection of our library materials. It is understood that gifts are freely given without conditions attached.

All donations will be considered as Donations of Gifts-In-Kind. You also can make voluntary donation via PayPal.

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It is understood that gifts are freely given without conditions attached.

Pierre has been compiling a Scientology Research library purchasing many rare materials in order to preserve the tech. and to use the materials for research and as a practical reference for standard processing. This project has been heavily sabotaged in the the past, however it came to produce extraordinary good results despite the counter intention and many road blocks. Now the fruits of the hard work have become evident.

Recently we have been approached by benefactors who offered some help for this project. I am happy to see that despite of the many who just want to consume resources without fair exchange, there are some kind people who  actually want to contribute and further help for the development of the Scientology Research Library by sending gifts-in-kind donating materials and monetary resources. I am happy to see that true kindness and care for others is still out there.

Thank you for your gifts-in-kind and your contributions.

True kindness is still out there.

What makes great people are the simple acts of kindness.

FAD AND FALLACIES IN THE NAME OF THE OT LEVELS IN SCIENTOLOGY

FAD AND FALLACIES IN THE NAME OF THE OT LEVELS IN SCIENTOLOGY

The OT Levels were developed by L.Ron Hubbard after 1966, the year he first delivered the Clearing Course.

OT I through VII were released one by one between 1966 and 1971.

On June 30, 1973 L. Ron Hubbard wrote SCIENTOLOGY, CURRENT STATE OF THE SUBJECT AND MATERIALS, a bulletin where he states: “OT levels as they exist in Advanced Orgs were completed by 68.There are perhaps 15 levels above OT VII fully developed but existing only in unissued note form…”

Many people appear to have never duplicated the meaning of the phrase “UNISSUED NOTE FORM” and expect to find full Bulletins and completed write-up and compilations.

In 1969, L.Ron Hubbard issued a confidential bulletin, which is the only bulletin bearing OT VIII in the title or the distribution.

In late 1978 NOTs was released amid much fanfare and promoted by L.Ron Hubbard as the missing piece of tech necessary to prepare a case for OT VIII.

In 1981 an official Church Directive announced the naming of the OT Drug Rundown as NEW OT IV, Audited NOTs as NEW OT V, Solo NOTs course as NEW OT VI and SOLO NOTs auditing as NEW OT VII. Contrarily to FREEZONE conspiracy theories and disinformation spread by ignorant people that had no information, the Original OT LEVELS WERE NOT CANCELLED at that time. Quite on the contrary the same Executive Directive and a subsequent clarification explicitly stated that the original Levels were to be called “ORIGINAL OT…” rather than “OLD OT …” to avoid technical degrades and that they were not cancelled, but rather to be done after NOTs was completed. In 1984 at Flag, foreign students that could not enroll on the SOLO NOTS because it was not translated in their language were still doing the original OT Levels OT IV-VII. I was even called once to do a review on original OT V and VI. The year was late 1983.

Another false datum dreamed about SOLO NOTS is that “Suppressives have split NOTS and SOLO NOTs into two separate levels. The idea that SOLO NOTS is an entirely different level and to be delivered at FLAG ONLY (as the only place with the resources to deliver it standardly) comes from L. Ron Hubbard himself. Those who complain that their case is suffering from being unable to do SOLO NOTS are simply in need to have their case repaired on the level(s) they were run on, not get into a new level while still being some restimulation.

Confidential issues released in 1982 for SOLO C/Ses and AO Review auditors only clarified, based on LRH recommendation and technology that the ORIGINAL OT IV – VI, levels which primarily deal with clean exteriorization and ability to operate outside a body, were best done after NOTs, because the phenomena that NOTs address can often act as an impediment to getting the full gains possible on those original OT Levels. There is even a confidential Solo C/S ONLY bulletin about the original OT VI that list phenomena subsequently fully described in the NOTs materials, as the major obstacle to getting the OT abilities and stability promised on that level.

It is astonishing to see the number of false data being spread by people who never trained in AO Reviews (NOTs is NOT the same level as AO Reviews and there are over 100 pages of original OT III-VII materials that are not in the courses given to the students nor on the NOTS course, but only in the SOLO C/S and AO Review auditor courses. Most people spreading false data are merely spreading their own speculations based on ignorance.

Contrarily to Freezone hype and propaganda the ORIGINAL OT VII has been continuously delivered at Flag and the AOs by graduates of the AO Review auditor courses to pre-OTs on OT III and who had just completed the level whenever it was adjudicated necessary by the Solo C/S. As an example, between 1982 and 1992 (the year I left Flag) ,I delivered over 25 ORIGINAL OT VII AUDITED RUNDOWNS.(Original OT VII consist of an audited Rundown audited by an AO Review Auditor followed by a Solo step).

Just over a year ago, when I sought to correct the hype being spread by a “popular auditor” and “Freezone Authority” who was boasting about being the first to have audited that rundown since 1982, by politely pointing that I had audited over 30 of those Rundowns between 1982 and 2010, I was instantly attacked by his fanatical followers who still view as a fiend anyone hinting that their idol may be mistaken in any of his utterances.

I have even found out that the same auditor is using a bootleg version of the original OT VII. The version that auditor use is one created by the Church of Eductivism, a Scientology splinter group from the 1970s led by Jack Horner who has been branded multiple times by L.Ron Hubbard as a fiend and master of deception. On that version of OT VII, most processes were not written by L. Ron Hubbard and the approach taken to the level is radically different than the one written by L. Ron Hubbard.

It does not prevent his fanatical followers to proclaim on every roof that they view him as the pillar of standard tech in the Independent field (beside the fact that I have written 3 retrains on him for serous tech alteration and I am still awaiting compliance). Another “FREEZONE AUTHORITY” doing the same thing has built their practice on the hype of having once been trained by L. Ron Hubbard, even though they currently prefer to sell other practices ranging from UFO and Alien Channelling to Shamanism, while still pretending it is Scientology. Sadly they do it because they need the income from the clients they lure in and because those practices require little to no skill to deliver compared to expert C/Sing. The sad truth is that the auditor in question has become incredible rusty on the subject of standard tech is deeply afraid to be found out and therefore pretends to still be a master at it.

FOR THE RECORD: THE VERY FIRST ACTION OF THE ORIGINAL OT VII IS AN ASSESSMENT.

If the Original OT VII you received is not like that, then you most probably received EDUCTIVISM, not Scientology, whatever you auditor thought or may have told you.

THE OT LEVELS BEYOND OT VIII

Contrarily to the multiple statements that were made by the propaganda machine of Marty Rathbun and by his worshippers: The Original OT LEVELS above OT VIII were both created and audited by L. Ron Hubbard and do exist but, as AS STATED MULTIPLE TIMES: “only in unissued note form” These notes typically range from simple LRH session worksheets to hastily handwritten notes similar to “old cuffs” published in the 1950s.

 The truth is that Marty Rathbun was not on tech lines or overseeing them until the late 1990s. If he had been trained on the Ls rundowns, he would know that within exist three mentions by L.Ron Hubbard in the L-10 materials (two in his handwriting, one in a typed bulletin) that L-10 is based on his research and discoveries made on OT VIII to XV. L. Ron Hubbard has never been known to make deliberately false statements in tech materials. Further, I have conversed with several of the people that were responsible for the safekeeping, testing and compilation of the technology during the late 1960s and early 1970s. Each of those individuals independently stated the same thing: they had seen the folder containing the research notes on OT VIII-XV and beyond or some of its content and they confirmed the existence of those Levels. Marty Rathbun has never had conversation with those individuals and in fact they would not even give him the time of day, based on Marty’s track of supporting OSA attacks on tech defectors for well over a decade and his confessed history of physical abuse of people under his command, not to speak that he was for a number of years the right arm of a degenerate and tech basher/squirrel named David Miscavige.

I have spent hundreds of hours reconstructing those levels and have offered them to ethical individual who were technically ready for it. The results were everything that was hoped for.

Sadly a number of fanatic bashers have decided that Marty Rathbun is as infallible on technical matters just like the Pope is on matters of Catholic faith. My technical assessment of Marty Rathbun falls very short of the hypnotic faith some of his followers have in him.

One of my most virulent attackers was someone who never bothered to communicate or email me before he launched an attack by putting words in my mouth and accusing me of making statements I never had made.

The same individual professes to have abandoned belief in Scientology in favor of Buddhism, while having no problem charging large C/Sing fees for OT III, a level he apparently no longer believe in. Further, he uses the excuse of being a “Swinger” to justify his repeated attempts at getting his female public and trainees in bed with him.

Here is someone who is nowhere near ready for the next OT Levels, therefore should not have to concern himself about the availability of such.

Pierre Ethier

Class XII Auditor and C/S

Copyright © 2013 by Pierre Ethier Publications

 

 

Debbie Cook’s email

Cher(ère) ami(e)
Je vous envoie cet email en tant qu’ami et camarade scientologue. Nous entrons dans une nouvelle année, et j’espère que 2012 sera une année de grande dissémination et d’avancée réelle sur le Pont pour tous les scientologues.
Bien que je ne sois pas dans la Sea Org à l’instant présent, j’ai servi dans la Sea Org, pendant 29 ans à Flag. J’ai passé 17 années à la tête de Flag en tant que capitaine de FSO. Je suis auditeur et C/S entraîné en Tech, et en Admin j’ai fait les cours OEC, FEBC et DSEC.
Je suis entièrement dédiée à la technologie de Dianétique et de Scientologie et à l’œuvre de LRH. J’ai vu des résultats plus spectaculaires et miraculeux les uns que les autres avec l’application des technologies de LRH, et je sais avec certitude qu’il faut se battre pour la garder pure et non altérée.
Mon mari et moi sommes en bon standing et nous ne sommes pas liés à quelqu’un qui ne l’est pas. Nous avons toujours refusé de parler aux médias, même s’ils nous ont beaucoup sollicité.
Mais j’ai de très sérieuses préoccupations quant aux outpoints de KSW que je vois imprégner la religion de Scientologie.
J’ai le plus grand respect pour les milliers de scientologues dévoués et les membres de la Sea Org. Ensemble, nous avons traversé les pires difficultés que l’on puisse imaginer et cependant nous avons réussi à avoir un impact réel sur l’environnement. Je suis fière de ce que nous avons réalisé et je sais que vous l’êtes aussi. Cependant c’est une lapalissade de dire que ce nouvel âge de « levée de fonds continuelle » vient considérablement noircir le tableau.
LRH dit dans l’HCO PL du 9 janvier 51, Un Essai sur le Management, “Ne mettez pas de rideaux entre l’organisation et le public sur quoique ce soit.” – LRH
Je m’appuie sur cette lettre de règlement, pour vous informer de certaines situations sur lesquelles nous avons besoin de faire quelque chose au sein de notre religion, au sein de notre groupe.
Les actions non couvertes dans une lettre de règlement de LRH, ou qui violent directement une lettre de règlement de LRH et de la technologie comprennent:
• Les activités extrêmes de sur-regging et de levées de fonds qui sont maintenant la priorité de presque toutes les orgs Sea Org et orgs classe V ainsi que de tous les “OT Comités” ne sont couvertes dans aucune lettre de règlement de LRH.
• Les Travailleurs acharnés membres de la Sea Org et le personnel dévoué des orgs du monde entier ne choisissent pas de faire ces actions. Pas plus que les OTs. Je suis sûr qu’ils seraient bien plus heureux s’ils pouvaient simplement faire de la dissémination directe de la Scientologie comme ils l’ont fait pendant tant d’années. Mais la vérité est que les ordres viennent des échelons les plus élevés, au sein de la structure de la Scientologie et clairement il y a beaucoup de pression pour atteindre les objectifs qui sont fixés.
• L’ IAS: L’IAS a été créé à l’insu de LRH en 1984 par Marc Yager et David Miscavige.
Cette création était supposée être fondée sur des lettres de règlement de LRH concernant le membership et le HASI (Hubbard Association of Scientologists, International).
Cependant l’IAS ne correspond en rien au système de membership décrit par LRH qui ne comprend que deux memberships (HCO PL du 22 Mars 1965 ” Current Promotion and Org Program Summary, Membership Rundown” et qui affirme:
“Il ya deux memberships …” – LRH
LRH les cite: il y a le membership international ANNUEL et estime son coût à 10 livres sterling ou 30 $ US. Il cite également un abonnement à vie qui coûte 75 $ US. Il n’y a pas d’autres memberships ou statuts approuvés ou connus pour LRH.
• Par ailleurs, les fonds de membership sont censés aller directement dans les caisses de l’org, là où la carte de membre est prise, et l’argent doit être utilisé pour la dissémination par cette org, dans cette zone. Ceci est couvert dans la lettre de règlement HCOPL du 1er sept 1965R Règlements sur les adhésions.

 ‘ Tout l’argent va dans le livre de compte HCO de la zone où l’adhésion est signée et ne compte pas dans le revenu brut (G.I.) de l’organisation, pour la semaine. L’argent des adhésions va à la dissémination.’ – LRH.
• Actuellement l’argent des adhésions est détenu en tant que réserve à Int et la somme a largement dépassé le milliard de dollars.
Seule une infime partie a été dépensée, en violation de la lettre de règlement susmentionnée.
Et sur ces sommes monumentales seule une partie des intérêts générés est utilisée pour financer des projets.
En fait, beaucoup des activités que vous voyez lors d’événements IAS ne sont pas en réalité financées par l’IAS, mais plutôt par les scientologues impliqués.
• Réfléchissez-y maintenant, combien d’annonces diffusant la Scientologie, la Dianétique ou des programmes affiliés de Scn avez-vous vu à la télé? Entendu à la radio? Vu dans les journaux? Je n’en ai pas vu un seul, à San Antonio, au Texas où je vis depuis 4 ans. San Antonio est la 7ème ville des États-Unis. Et vous, combien en avez-vous vu?
Donner plus d’argent que le montant des deux memberships mentionnés ci-dessus viole la lettre de règlement de LRH.
L’article “Ce qu’achètent vos donations” (The Auditor, le journal mensuel de la scientologie n° 51, 1970) explique clairement la façon dont l’église utilise vos donations pour les services de Dianétique et de Scientologie.
• La prochaine fois que l’on vous demande de faire un don pour autre chose qu’un service, réalisez que cela relève de la levée de fonds et exigez de voir quelque chose écrit par  L. Ron Hubbard qui montre que c’est ce qu’il attend de vous en tant que scientologue.
Nouveaux bâtiments des Orgs:
• De la même façon, LRH n’a jamais ordonné l’acquisition d’immeubles opulents ou des rénovations chic ou des meubles coûteux pour chaque org.
En fait, si vous lisez l’HCO PL du 12 Mars 75 Issue II «L’Org Idéale», qui a donné son nom à ce programme immobilier, vous verrez que dans sa description d’une Org Idéale, LRH n’a jamais demandé des bâtiments à 20 millions de dollars, ou même fait référence au chic ou au luxe des locaux des orgs.
Au lieu de cela, une Org Idéale était une Org qui délivrait des services et faisait monter les gens sur le Pont – quelque chose  qui ne fait pas partie de ce programme d’ ‘Org Idéale’.
LRH dit dans la PL qu’une Org Idéale: “devrait être propre et suffisamment attractive pour ne pas repousser son public” – LRH. C’est tout ce qu’il dit sur l’état de l’immeuble.
• En raison de cette altération de la lettre de règlement sur l’Org Idéale, la majorité des OTs, désormais appelés “ambassadeurs OT”,  passent le plus clair de leur temps dans ces activités de levée de fonds incluant «bingo», ‘dîners de pirate’,  et de nombreuses autres activités tournant uniquement autour de la levée de fonds pour récolter les multi-millions de dollars nécessaires pour financer leurs “Orgs Idéales”.
Ceci explique pourquoi, les publics de chaque org sont désormais invités à faire des dons à leur «Org Idéale» locale plutôt que de payer leurs propres services ou leur propre pont.

 LRH dit dans l’HCO PL PL Org Ethics and Tech:
“DébarrasseZ vous de tout ce qui vous détourne de la Scientologie dans votre org, débarrassez-vous des ‘distractions’, Baby-sitting, billets de tombola et autres absurdités. “

 • Pourtant, ces distractions prolifèrent car elles sont utilisées pour les levées de fonds pour satisfaire les quotas énormes exigés pour financer l’”Org Idéale”.
«Si l’org s’effondre … ne vous engagez pas dans des levées de fonds» ou « ventes de cartes postales» ni n’empruntez de l’argent.  Il suffit de faire plus de revenus avec la Scientologie.
C’est un signe de très mauvais management que de chercher des solutions extraordinaires pour le financement en dehors de la Scientologie. Cela a toujours échoué. “
«Pour les orgs comme pour les PCs, ‘Résolvez-le avec la Scientologie».
“Chaque fois que j’ai moi-même cherché à résoudre des problèmes financiers ou personnels par d’autres moyens que la Scientologie, j’ai échoué. Donc, je peux vous dire par expérience que la solvabilité des orgs réside dans plus de Scientologie, pas dans des peignes brevetés ou des barbecues pour lever des fonds.”
 HCO PL 24 Février 1964, Issue II, Org Programmation, (OEC Vol. 7, p. 930)
Le point est que les Scientologues et les OTs ont besoin d’entraîner, auditer et de disséminer de nouveaux publics – non pas de se regger les uns les autres ou d’organiser des levées de fonds internes.
Out Tech:
• Au cours des dernières années, nous avons vu des centaines et des centaines de personnes valider leur état de  Clair par le CCRD développé par LRH, à qui on annonce maintenant qu’ils ne sont pas Clairs.
Cela incluait des centaines d’OTs qui ont ensuite été mis sur NED comme «maniement». LRH interdit clairement de parcourir toute Dianétique sur les OTs dans l’HCOB « Dianétique Interdite sur les OTs».
Ceci est out Tech.
COB RTC (COB = Chairman of Board : David Miscavige) a personnellement confectionné ce “maniement” technique qui a été appliqué sur des milliers d’OTs.
Mais ce n’était pas basé sur un HCOB de LRH, mais plutôt basé sur un C/S unique de LRH, sur un PreOT qui n’avait pas atteint l’état de Clair, mais avait été néanmoins mis sur OT III et n’y arrivait pas du tout.
LRH a donné des instructions pour un maniement en solo que le PreOT a dû faire pour atteindre lui-même l’état de Clair.
Ce C/S de LRH pris hors contexte a ensuite été utilisé pour mettre en œuvre un maniement technique qui était en violation directe d’un HCOB de LRH.
• Ceci ainsi que d’autres “maniements techniques” appliqués sur les auditeurs de Solo NOTs au niveau mondial leur a occasionné de grands frais et des difficultés, car ils devaient faire ces maniements pour continuer sur le niveau.
• Puis il y a les “grades rapides à Flag” qu’aucune autre org ne délivre.
Comment se peut-il que Flag ait pu délivrer les grades différemment du reste du monde dans les 3 dernières années ?
Quel que soit le problème, le fait est que d’avoir des «Grades rapides” à Flag crée une ligne de données cachées et c’est un Haut Crime et cela fait l’objet d’une lettre de règlement entière appelée «TECH dégrade» que LRH a placé au début de chaque cours de Scientologie.
• Plus récemment, la mode semble être que presque tout le monde a besoin de «refaire son Purif et de faire un long programme d’objectifs”, dont de nombreux auditeurs solo NOTs en plein milieu du niveau.
• Il n’ya rien de mal à faire des objectifs, mais c’est une violation claire de l’HCOB  ”MÉLANGE  DES RUNDOWNS ET DES RÉPARATIONS” qu’une personne au milieu d’un rundown ou d’un niveau d’OT en soit retirée et placée sur un programme d’objectifs.
De plus les auditeurs solo NOTs doivent également recevoir leurs procédés objectifs par un auditeur classe IX, au prix des intensives de NOTs, car ils ne sont pas autorisés à la co-audition.
Flag a ainsi fait plusieurs millions de dollars grâce à ces maniements out-tech ci-dessus énumérés parce que:
Les OTs au milieu de solo NOTs sont obligés de recevoir ces actions out-tech pour être en mesure de revenir et de rester sur le niveau et le compléter. Sans oublier les effets spirituels de l’out-tech que cela a sur chaque OT.
• J’ai été moi-même sujette à ces maniements out-tech, y compris un long FPRD au milieu de solo NOTs. Cela m’a couté à bien des égards, notamment au niveau physique car j’ai développé une maladie que je dois encore combattre aujourd’hui. J’ai donc une certaine réalité des dégâts que cela a causé.
Structure de commandement de LRH
• LRH nous a laissé avec une structure de commandement complexe et équilibrée, avec nos orgs dirigées par le Bureau international de l’ED.
Ce bureau a été jugé si important que LRH a créé un groupe de management spécial appelé le Comité Watch Dog (Comité de surveillance), dont le seul but était de veiller à ce que ce bureau et les autres entités de management nécessaires existent et continuent d’exister.
La LRH ED 339R parle de cela abondamment en tant qu’outil de protection de notre Eglise.
Mais ces personnes sont portées disparues.
Et pas quelques unes seulement.
Effectivement il y a quelques années, il n’y avait pas de membres du bureau de ED Int sur poste, ainsi qu’aucun tops execs dans toute la structure de Management International.
    Vous vous êtes peut être également demandé … où est Heber, le président de l’Église?
    Qu’en est-il de Ray Mitthoff, Senior C/S International, celui à qui LRH a personnellement donné les niveaux d’OT supérieurs?
    Et de  Norman Starkey, LRH Trustee?
    Qu’est-il arrivé à Guillaume – Directeur Exécutif International?
    Et Marc Yager, le président du WDC (Watch Dog Committee)?
    Qu’est-il arrivé aux autres dirigeants du Management International que vous avez vu lors des événements au fil des ans?
La vérité…
C’est que j’ai passé des semaines à travailler dans le bâtiment vide du Management International.
Vide car tout le monde avait été retiré de poste.
Au niveau supérieur de la hiérarchie, j’ai été briefé en détail par David Miscavige, qui m’a expliqué à quel point ils étaient tous mauvais et avaient tous commis des choses très très déshonorantes.
Cela semblait «expliquer» le fait que l’intégralité du Watch Dog Committee n’existait plus.
L’intégralité de l’Executive Strata, qui se composait de ED international et 11 autres top dirigeants internationaux, chacun en charge d’un domaine particulier, n’existait plus.
Le Commodore Messenger Org international n’existait plus.
Toutes ces structures de commandement clés de la Scientologie Internationale, mises en place par LRH, avaient été enlevées.
• Il y avait des centaines et des centaines de lettres restées sans réponse et des demandes d’aide du personnel des orgs, adressées à ces 11 tops executif  de l’Exec strata (dans la  LRH ED 339R, LRH explique que chaque membre du personnel pouvait écrire à ces tops cadres pour demander de l’aide.)
• Mais si vous enlevez tout le monde de poste il n’y aura personne pour répondre et aider les staff, pour obtenir des évaluations et des programmes pour l’expansion de la scientologie.
• Eh bien, après ça, j’ai réussi à rencontrer et passer des moments de qualité avec Heber, Ray Mithoff, Norman Starkey, Guillaume, ainsi que l’intégralité du Management international de l’époque. Ils étaient tous hors poste et faisaient de très longs et très durs programmes d’éthique.
• Ces programmes ont duré des années et ont eu pour seul résultat qu’ils sont toujours hors poste. On ne peut nier que ces top dirigeants ont tous progressivement disparu du paysage scientologique. Vous ne les voyez plus dans les grands événements ou au voyage inaugural sur le navire.
• David Miscavige est maintenant devenu le «leader» de la religion de Scientologie.
• Pourtant, ce que LRH avait laissé derrière lui était une énorme structure pour manager correctement tous les aspects de la religion de Scientologie.
• Il a mis sur pied toute une structure organisée complète et brillante, pas un individu unique.
• Il n’a jamais été censé y avoir un «leader» autre que LRH lui-même en tant que créateur de buts pour notre groupe.
• Il y a là un gros problème et même si vous n’avez pas fait partie du Management International, vous devriez être capable de voir que du sur-regging et de fréquents changements technologiques ne sont pas OK et vous avez la responsabilité de faire quelque chose pour faire en sorte que la Scientologie continue à fonctionner (KSW).
• Vous devriez être capable de trouver et de lire les références sur les memberships dans le volume 6 des OEC. Trouvez et lisez la HCO PL intitulée «L’Org Idéale» (Data Series 40).
• Trouvez et lisez les références sur les bâtiments des orgs, y compris HCO PL du 24 août 65 II, la propreté des locaux et le personnel, améliorer notre image. Ainsi que l’HCO PL du 17 Juin 69, L’Image de l’Org.
Si vous ne voulez pas faire de vagues, ou risquer de vous voir retiré du niveau d’audition ou vous voir refuser l’inégibilité aux niveaux d’OT, alors il y a des choses simples que vous pouvez faire:
D’abord et avant tout :
• Arrêtez de soutenir les actions qui sont off Policy (allant à l’encontre des lettres de règlement).
• Cessez de donner de l’argent pour autre chose que vos propres services et votre montée sur le Pont.
• Il vous suffit simplement d’exiger de voir une référence de LRH qui stipule que vous êtes tenu de faire de telles donations.
Personne ne sera capable de vous montrer une référence car il n’y en a pas.
• Arrêtez de soutenir toute activité de levée de fonds dans votre zone.
LRH dit ce qu’il attend d’un scientologue :
— C’est ce qu’il attend de vous. En fait il l’a écrit dans l’HCOB du 10 Juin 1960 Issue I, KSW Serie 33, Ce que nous attendons d’un scientologue. Lisez et appliquez le.
• L’autre chose que vous pouvez faire est d’envoyer ce mail à un maximum de personnes que vous le pouvez, même si vous le faites sous couvert d’anonymat.
• S’il vous plaît gardez ce courriel entre nous, les scientologues. Les médias n’ont pas leur place dans ce domaine.
Peut être vous demandez vous pourquoi je n’ai pas écrit de KR.
La réponse est : je l’ai fait. Mais il n’y a plus personne à qui envoyer ce KR.
• Mais vous pouvez et devez rédiger des rapports et rapportez ce qui est out et off-policy, aux dirigeants locaux et aux membres de la Sea Org.
Nous sommes un groupe fort et puissant et nous pouvons effectuer un changement. Nous avons affronté de nombreuses tempêtes. Je suis désolé d’être celle qui vous l’annonce, mais une nouvelle tempête est sur nous. Ses vagues sont déjà dans les médias et le monde qui nous entoure.
La vérité est que, en tant que Scientologue, vous êtes plus capable, plus perspicace et avez une plus grande intégrité. La Scientologie est censée vous faire «penser par vous-même» et vous amener à ne jamais compromettre votre propre intégrité. Et il ne fait aucun doute que LRH tient chaque Scientologue responsable pour faire que la Scientologie continue à fonctionner (KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING).
Je ne cherche pas à faire autre chose que de remédier à toutes les choses off Policy qui se produisent. Mon mari et moi avons une grande partie de notre famille et beaucoup beaucoup de bons amis qui sont Scientologues.
Je n’ai pas grand intérêt à fournir la corde pour me faire pendre. Cependant, je sais aussi que j’ai consacré toute ma vie d’adulte à soutenir LRH et l’application des technologies de LRH. Si jamais je devais regarder LRH dans les yeux, à moins de faire quelque chose maintenant, je ne pourrais pas lui dire que je fais tout mon possible pour faire que la Scientologie continue à fonctionner (KSW).
Nous avons tous à y gagner. Il n’est simplement pas possible de lire les références de LRH et ne pas voir les altérations et les violations qui se produisent journellement.
Vous avez une obligation très simple envers LRH. Ne pas participer à quoi que ce soit hors règlement, et faire savoir aux autres qu’ils ne le doivent pas non plus.
Si chaque personne qui lit ce mail n’avait rien fait d’autre que d’arrêter les actions qui sont hors règlement, nous aurions déjà changé de cap.
Si toute cette énergie était canalisée dans l’audition, l’entraînement et la dissémination du nouveau public, nous serions en train de gagner la partie.
Et c’est ce que je vous souhaite à vous et à nous tous, à l’aube de cette nouvelle année.
ARC,
Debbie Cook

Ls Rundowns – Vital Information

There is a lot of false data on the Ls and their delivery in the “Independent” field. This comes exclusively from untrained and unqualified auditors doing these rundowns using altered, forged and/or stolen materials, in addition to the fact they have over 50% missing. I tried to train a few people to deliver those rundowns, and tried, only for a short while to supervise their auditing. I divorced myself from each of those people, as soon as I realized they had betrayed my trust by mis-auditing those rundowns, refusing to do standard setups, getting repeated FLUNKS and being adamant they made no errors and refusing correction. There are 6 pending retrain orders among those people (all involving goofs at lower levels) that are still not complied with, because they each admitted, it would be detrimental to their income. Each of them provided me with criminal exchange.

I later found out that each of them had been guilty of false auditor reports. I have not been C/Sing any auditors on the Ls for many  years now. However, according to their dissatisfied pcs who keep coming forward, many claims were made that I was C/Sing their case when I wasn’t.

No need to name names as there are no exceptions as it applies to the Ls. My message to those individuals is: Shame on you, for spending much time promoting yourself on the Internet, while you ignore vital retrain orders and keep making the same mistakes. You need some ethics help first, per LRH, retraining or studying over personal unhandled out-ethics will result in no change and making the same flubs. Fortunately there are many Independents who state they offer Ethics Handlings.

The Ls rundowns based on thousands of cases seen by myself and those I have audited and information by Flag LRH trained Class XII C/Ses:

1- should be audited INTENSELY, meaning one session day at the very minimum, unless the pc is on a persistent F/N and undesirous of more auditing for the day. Auditing Ls at one session a week is a GROSS Violation of C/S Series 1 and the bulletins that explain the philosophy of those rundowns and what they seek to achieve. I have report of an auditor exactly doing that, apparently taking 6 months to a year on an L, meaning LIFE itself was the main process being run on the case, not the Ls. Seemingly those people are now happy. The question is for how long, as the C/S series clearly state that out-tech on a pc, even when the person may be rave about their attest, may be short lived or unstable, sometimes not. In each case, who can truly tell what wins the person receiving the out-tech auditing actually missed???

I have declined repeatedly to audit people on the Ls when it was impossible to deliver them intensively (meaning at least once, preferably more) those Ls either because of my schedule or the pcs. Unfortunately, less scrupulous individuals, are apparently still taking people hard earned money for that kind of delivery I repeatedly told them was wrong and out-tech. One of the auditors is a millionaire. I am not. I am not rich but I have been told that I have a heart of gold and my ultimate satisfaction it that I have helped people and did my best.

2- A plausible duration for L-11, where the pc had been honestly and fully set-up and done an in tech fashion is from a low 4 hours to a Maximum of 40 hours. Anyone run less than that (and sometimes even more) is QUICKIED. Anyone run over 40 hours was either NOT SET-UP, unnecessary optional rundowns (or those designed for another case and not the pc) were run, or there is significant OUT-TECH. By far the most likely is NOT SET-UP. If the PC is not properly set up, the PC will run then the PC will run endlessly.

Setups for the Ls are explicitly described in HCOB “Auditing and C/Sing Flag Only rundowns and a restricted checklist. The HCOB just mentioned has  NOT  been read by anyone delivering the Ls in the free field, because it is part of the Ls C/S materials only.

I have heard reports of people being run 100 hours or even 200 hours on L-11. Sometimes it comes from the pc himself, or from his/her published success story.

We have heard auditors charged for L-11  between $20,000 and $40,000 and taking in excess of 100 to 200 hours. WoW!!!  This is more than the Church charges. These poor saps have either literally money to burn or do so little research that they happily pay the Ferrari list price when buying a Geo or a Volkswagen. There were actual reports from PCs paying for a single L in excess of  $300 000. I am shocked by the arrogance of those “gold diggers”.  As to myself I have often attended the needs of dying and abandoned Scientologists at my own expense and spent countless hours assisting people.

3- A plausible duration for L-12, where the pc had been honestly and fully set-up and done an in tech fashion is from a low 10 hours to a Maximum of 50 hours. The same comments as I wrote for L-11 apply. Apparently there are people who have spent 100-200 hours on L-12, paying more than the Church own exorbitant prices. I heard of a person getting L-12 in one hour by an auditor… meaning 90% of the rundown could not have possibly been run.

4- L-10 is different than other Ls. It is a long rundown. It covers all dynamics and areas of life. A standardly run L-10 has a minimum of 2500 questions, with many others for handling items that come up. 25 hours is made of 1500 minutes. Spending only one minute per question means the auditor is zipping the rundown at supersonic speed and failing to restimulate the pc. This means the auditor has at his hands the full power of a 747 Jumbo jet and is satisfied with doing local pizza delivery and never getting off the ground.

L-10 duration can vary widely. On a non-clear, Dianetics R3r is run as part of the rundown. This can lengthen the rundown.

An badly trained auditor will often overrun handlings, since he does not have the skill to properly spot them. Instead of validating the EP of an Item when it occurs, he will run many additional (unnecessary) questions, extending unnecessary the rundown (and filling his pocket in the bargain). This can cause the earlier blown item to come back, resulting in instability or unaddressed aberration. It took months of Internships, videos and cramming accessing LRH C/Sed L-10 session to learn how to audit L-10 flublessly. Per C/S 52 and LRH conferences on the Flag Internship and on auditing the Ls, this is the only way an auditor can learn how to audit L-10 properly. Anything else is QUICKIE training and will result in Quickie L-10. This is what LRH says and my experience has shown him to be correct on that point.

Apparently some people don’t mind getting botched Ls (or out-tech/squirrel auditing). Rotten food may taste great, if you have never eaten anything but unflavoured liquid protein and vitamins, but don’t be surprised you get infected with E choli or worse…

Karen de la Carriere trained by LRH, multiple winner of the auditor of the year award at Flag and an authentic Flag Class XII C/S, has made several statements about the training and skills necessary to learns the Ls.

I agree with each of them 100%. Specifically she said:

“There is nothing in the field in current set ups that can even come near approximating Ls training. Each internship takes MONTHS of 40 hour to 60 hours in the chair of flawless VWD sessions for graduation to be approved. But the pc is the beneficiary and is now in safe hands. The safety and guaranteed stability of the pc is the primary importance here. To hell with any other consideration than the PC and the PC’s benefit.” Karen

I could not have said it better myself.

Written by Pierre Ethier

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1994 Church of Scientology price list for services

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2002 Church of Scientology price list for the Ls

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