Why interships are so vital for the auditor delivering the L

Written by Site Admin ( The author is not Pierre Ethier)

Below is a summary of concerns raised by Karen De La Carriere in regard to the lack of proper auditor training for delivery of the Ls in the independent field. IFA / APIS did not provide me with a response and did not address their certification scheme shortcomings in the light of the issues raised below. I want to thank Karen for raising the concerns below and to thank her for taking the safety of the PCs at heart. It requires an impressive amount of dedication in studies and perfection of your own techniques to master the proper delivery of the Ls. It is even more impressive the amount of care  about the well being of the PC  that motivated auditors like Karen to master their tech.

The current situation is that untrained auditors deliver  while PR-ing their business practice with “success stories” and no case gain. On the background are their failed cases spiritually broken, hopeless and desperate. There were instances of   corrupt practices sabotaging the PC ‘s spiritual case. Those practices led to botched Ls and/or extended the delivery time cycle for practitioner’s financial profit to four or even ten times beyond the normal Ls delivery cycle. It is unethical for a trainee to use the PC as a “cash cow” while charging excessive hourly rates. For example the average standardly delivered L12 should take not more than 25 hours delivered in a week.  L11 should be delivered in a week and L10 takes 2-3 weeks.  This is based on case average statistics of over 5000 cases. A warning sign of improper processing of L12 would be if you have received it  in over 4 months period in 130 hours. The Ls are very powerful processing and are designed by LRH to be delivered on an intensive daily schedule in order to produce a successful case gain. The pricing for the Ls is recommended to be based on a flat fee for the whole completed cycle.  It is definitely NOT recommended to get one session a week and if your auditor can not accommodate you in his schedule or shortchange you with  advice  that is against your best interest, this should be a warning sign. One session a week or less on  the Ls is a violation of C/S Series #1. How trustworthy is a testimonial from an individual who is trying to promote their own business with violations of the basic auditing rules that LRH established himself. LRH has designed L11 and L12 to be delivered in about a week and L10 to be delivered in about 3 weeks.

An example of abuse comes to my mind , when a PC was forced to bare the cost of living out of town for 4 months and “completed” L12 in 130 hours paying to a junior class auditor more than what he would of paid in the Church of Scientology for a Class XII auditing.  Normally  this cycle should of taken less than  a week and in 95% of the cases takes less than 2 intensives.

I strongly believe that auditors who really care about their PCs will undergo the proper training, including internships, studies and drills as described by Karen. The independent field needs to adhere to higher standards to KSW.

December 21, 2011

Karen De La Carriere: ….[name omitted ] ….. “never had any Ls training. He certainly did not have the very complex and unique training of Class X, XI and Class XII. There is an enormous study of LRH CSed folders and special testsn to understand why LRH CSed that way. ” ….[name omitted ] ….” never came anywhere near this section of the training.”

Karen De La Carriere : “ The Ls are like a Ferrari. Most people can drive one up to 100mph but the minute you get into 150 mph, when things so wrong, they go terribly wrong. The Ls are high performance spiritual work that require expert handling by qualified Ls auditors. This requires interneships and not done by reading ‘hat write ups”.”

Karen De La Carriere : “When something goes wrong …either in a high performance vehicle or intense spiritual work ~~ the results can be catastrophic if one does not know how to recover from trouble. Lisa Mcpherson, 3 weeks after L-11 (see the image on the web of her proudly displaying her L-11 Cert and smiling) went Type III, taking off her clothes and walking naked on Fort harrison Avenue. This is an example of how badly it can backfire.”

Karen De La Carriere : “What we are discussing is an expanded range, that which can boost you so high spiritually and take you into the lofty heights of heaven can also backfire in the other direction and send you into hell.”

Karen De La Carriere: “ I will never participate in any action that does not guarantee the safety and well being of pcs. Only knowing, training and understanding the length an breadth of the procedures and their remedies can give the results LRH intended for these rundowns.”

Karen De La Carriere : “One example of how Interneships are so vital is that the AUDITING STYLE of Ls auditing is different. You have to un-do all the TRs 1-4 you have ever learned all your life and learn “TR L10 style” It is designed to impact the case differe…ntly. This needs to be drilled and drilled and drilled on video and one has to watch one’ own videos day after day, month after month til one has perfected one’s performance and til it is second nature. There is nothing in the field in current set ups that can even come near approximating Ls training. Each interneship takes MONTHS of 40 hour to 60 hours in the chair of flawless VWD sessions for graduation to be approved. But the pc is the beneficiary and is now in safe hands. The safety and guaranteed stability of the pc is the primary importance here. To hell with any other consideration than the PC and the PC’s benefit.”

The Sad Fate of Lisa McPherson

EVIL AND GREED are the motivations for public attacks on Pierre

Below I have included fresh harassment posts forwarding the CoS enemy lines based on exchanges by Aida Thomas and Trey Lotz, Both targeted to instigate attacks on Pierre by omissions.  I wish them both well! I also wish that both Aida and Trey move on with their life. They both admit in public to have been keeping track on what Pierre is doing while telling fabrications and claiming the  opposite in front of weak minded people they both manipulate to do their dirty work and bidding of viscous attacks. One example about targeted harassment is that right after publishing this note Pierre received threats by email.

Another example is that Trey Lotz below posted comments that  clearly indicate that Trey keeps track on Pierre and who Pierre has trained on the Ls as well as on Pierre’s personal activities. How is this any of Trey’s business and why Trey keeps spreading rumors about Pierre ? Simple answer is that this is Trey’s covert way to instigate attacks on Pierre and fraudulently to portray himself as the “good guy”. This is Scientology fairgame 101. Do not be mistaken about the real intentions as to why those rumors are put on public lines in places where Pierre can not respond! People need to see through it!

I have always hoped that both ( Trey and Aida) can do much better than purposefully forward the church enemy lines. I am also hoping they both  move onto greener pastures! Aida Thomas somehow feels entitled to receive a copy of Pierre’s personal notes about the Ls despite her gross out ethics and consistent attacks spreading fabrications and insults about Pierre, his family and his child. She also sent a foul language KR full of profanities and insults to Pierre wife’s non-Scientology work. Somehow after years of harassing my family, Aida still feels entitled to parasitically use Pierre’s work for her own profit.   When confronted about her own out ethics and how creepy this is , Aida keeps using brainwashed “friends” of hers to dead agent the truth. Aida’s consistent attacks on Pierre are excused with her telling that either “this was so long ago” and deceiving people portraying herself as a victim when she in actual fact is the aggressor posting insults on Pierre on ongoing basis  in various public forums. One fresh example below from February 20 , 2015. Aida’s modus operandi or or so called operational routine is to use her ” friends” or fraudulent puppet accounts to press buttons and generate hostilities on a targeted individual ( in this case Pierre). If you dare to respond to Aida, she will keep smearing and dragging your name into the mud back channel so you can’t even respond.

Trey Lotz on his site operated by spreading the ” convenient” truths and using his brainwashed PCs to viciously attack a targeted individual. Trey Lotz on his site keeps insisting to have been trained by Pierre omitting the fact that he started training and flunked. If one was a doctor and flunked on his exams , hospitals would not allow him to do surgeries. In the FreeZone however anything goes. This including Treys self promoting himself using Pierre’s name with this type of deception and deliberate omissions. One omission of Trey’s was that he was delivering the Ls without the supervision of a C/S . This is very important as some of the fixes are in the C/S materials. Trey also omits that he started training on L11 which he chronically delivered in duration of 4 months when one week is the standard and besides all technical issues he was charging more than what one would normally pay if the Ls was delivered in the Church. For the unsuspected victims let me tell you some truths: that Trey Lotz’s integrity is rather money and greed motivated as he omits to mention that he also made and agreement with Pierre to charge flat fee for the L which is 1/10 ( one tenth ) of the COS price instead of bleeding the PCs for money during his training. Trey has also taken the liberty to spread suggestive enemy lines on Pierre.

As Trey Lotz says below that Pierre has spend a lot of time compiling the materials on the Ls , then how come Trey Lotz threw under the carpet his integrity and his agreements with Pierre and feels justified to use parasitically Pierre’s personal notes for business purpose and to make profit? I view Trey Lotz as a parasite! The very same way Trey Lotz parasitically was using Pierre for free C/S-ing his numerous session and was parasitically using Pierre’s name to market his business by misleading his PCs that they were C/Sed by Pierre when they were not C/Sed at all after Trey’s refusal to correct his tech . Where was Trey’s integrity to pay a fair exchange for Pierre’s time and expenses instead of taking unfair advantage of Pierre who worked like a slave for 20 years at the Church? Trey’s own words claiming that he has a knowledge as to who is Pierre training on the Ls. This is a very interesting statement! Why would Trey Lotz track who is Pierre training and what is Trey’s obsession with Pierre’s personal affairs?

In order to silence some truths Trey Lotz PCs have viciously attacked and fairgamed Pierre  and his family. I am talking this not just spreading mere insults on the internet but legal threats on Pierre and his family, extortion , stalking and criminal harassment in partnership with the CoS ! This is to prove my point about the product of Trey Lotz – his PCs are not spiritually fulfilled stable and serene completing  L11 with Trey , but instead plotting to cause evil to family of 3 people with attempting to profit by taking the home of a disabled child and leaving 3 people homeless on the street. This is Trey’s UGLY and EVIL product!

After many years in silence I decided that from now on I will PUBLISH the information about all manipulations , attacks and constant insults!

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Trey Lotz and Aida Thomas busy with forwarding Church of Scientology enemy lines, fabrications to create conflicts and upsets. Below you will see how both ( Aida and Trey) third party Pierre behind his back.

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This following is a response by Pierre Ethier which was originally published in 2012:

Do you distribute copyrighted materials?

Absolutely not, despite of rumors and innuendos from Trey Lotz and his associates.

What about delivery of the Ls in the Free Field?

Rumors and innuendos from Trey Lotz, Perry Sheppard and their associates, using Pierre’s name as a reference and fraudulently claiming that Pierre has trained them to deliver the Ls are untrue

The Ls are designed to be delivered by Flag trained Class XIIs. There is a huge difference between a Flag trained auditor and a field auditor. Below is a Quote by Karen De La Carierre , Class XII C/S: 

“I soon discovered that a “Field Class VIII” did not mean a Flag Class VIII. And so I re-did all my internships and then trained up to Class XII…”

Rumors that Pierre has trained Trey Lotz to deliver the Ls are also untrue.  Pierre did attempt to train Trey Lotz on L11 , Trey committed gross auditing errors , refused correction and never sent a video for evaluation, yet made many unreasonable demands. Trey Lotz never attested nor completed Ls training with Pierre. Trey Lotz is a field auditor, never worked in an advanced organization and has mostly experience auditing the Lower Bridge . It is a well known fact that as a field auditor Trey was forbidden per Church Policy to audit any Upper Level Rundowns and OT Levels. He lacked the discipline  and the training to audit under the supervision of a C/S and lacked experience  to address the complexity of the Upper Bridge . There is vital information for the Ls in the C/S materials and for an auditor with no experience in the Upper Bridge to deliver the Ls without a C/S is reckless. In addition many of the  references related to the Ls are in the Class X , Class XI and Class XII materials and Trey is only Class VIII. When Trey Lotz promotes 40 000 hours on the chair , this means that his experience is overwhelmingly  in the Lower Bridge, which is not as complex as the Upper Bridge. L11 was designed by LRH to be delivered in a week , however Trey Lotz was chronically delivering it on numerous occasions in a duration of 4 months. This information is also broadly documented on the internet in various public releases by Trey’s PCs. Additional out tech was present in Trey’s delivery andPierre wish NO association with Trey Lotz.

A number of Trey Lotz PCs have viciously attacked Pierre and his family on Trey’s behalf , this including attacking Pierre’s child due to his disability or making  other vicious and cruel threats. The very same Trey’s PCs also carried out vast smear campaigns about Pierre and claimed to have  made fraudulent reports to the Church and various government agencies . A PC of Trey claims to have partnered with the Church in attacking Pierre to uphold Trey’s financial interests , claimed to have paid $30 000 to investigate Pierre in order to ruin his auditing practice and take Pierre’s home with intention of unfairly profiting and putting his disabled child homeless. The very same Trey’s PC published on the internet Pierre’s bank account and other clearly private information like phone numbers. Her  invitation  to harass Pierre. This was an organized effort of associates of Trey Lotz in a partnership with the Church to silence and dead agent Pierre in order prevent him from spiritual progress. This evil plot eventually fired back on the conspirators.   Such a behavior is practically shameless and  it is sad to see such  EVIL outcome has been produced by a practitioner out ofGREED! EVIL is a poor product! We hope that one day the above people will realize that seeking to destroy people of good will (like Pierre) is NOT the road to spiritual enlightenment. This also applies to their enablers and associates. In all cases these PCs were prized and socially rewarded  by Trey Lotz despite of their EVIL  behavior seeking to destroy a person of good will. Good people who had voiced private concerns directly to Trey Lotz , had been also threatened and harassed by the very same PCs.

 Trey Lotz NEVER made any advanced payments to Pierre to book or schedule his time and to cover Pierre’s time and expenses with a fair exchange . Rumors and innuendos from Trey Lotz and his associates in that regard are also untrue.  Pierre who spent 20 years in the Sea Org at almost no pay , had covered out of his own pocket many advanced and initial expenses , as well as ongoing expenses related Trey, who had spent his time as a field auditor at the rate of  around $160 000/ year. (based on Trey’s own reports to IRS  for tax exemption 2004 ,2009 , other– not paying taxes for paid services is an operation set up to function like the Church- merely mentioning the facts here! Also  based on Trey Lotz own boosting to have delivered 4000 hours of Ls auditing which amounts to 2500 hours in the last two years or $250 000 per year just from the Ls where around $100 000/year seem to have been unreported to IRS) In one year period alone Pierre provided to Trey in excess of 300 hours unpaid services. Despite that fact Trey went ahead with to spread rumors about Pierre and had the arrogance to insist that Pierre have to serve his practice as a slave ( at NO PAY!).

Pierre Ethier also had NO knowledge and has NO association with the intimidating “agreement” used by Trey Lotz on his Preclears , where Preclears seem to have been asked to contract themselves out of legal rights. ( Link to the document as published by Trey’s PCs) . Pierre Ethier does NOT approve practices based on intimidation and disprove this supressive document that could potentially prevent a Preclear from spiritual gains.  .

Below is a quote by LRH that explains that the Upper Bridge should not be misused. This applies for the Ls , OT Levels , Flag Only Rundowns, NOTs and other Upper Bridge actions.

“The lower levels of Scientology are quite innocent. Only the upper grades could be harmful if misused and these are only placed in the hands of experts” L. Ron Hubbard in “ Is Scientology Dangerous”


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What about the role of the Case Supervisor ( C/S) in upper level rundowns?

Field auditors affiliated with the Corporate Church of Scientology deliver auditing up to Clear and typically have NO EXPERIENCE in delivering upper levels. Field auditors refer their PC to the Orgs for 15% FSM commission which they receive for services purchased by the PC from the Church. A field auditor usually comes out in the free field with no experience auditing beyond Clear and lacks the discipline to audit under C/S..

Flag only rundowns (which Pierre studied and delivered – e.g. Original Super Power Rundown, Knowledge Rundown , Case Cracker Rundown , New Vitality Rundown , Fixated Person Rundown , Dynamic Sort-out Assessment , NOTs Stability Rundown, Held Down Seven Rundown, Int. by Dynamics Rundown, Havingness Rundown , The Prosperity Rundown, The Money Rundown, Profession Intensive ) address variety of handlings like money and spiritual difficulties, issues, ethics , case situations and other. The Ls , Flag Only Rundowns [Delivered at Flag Only] , NOTs [Delivered only in Advanced Organizations / Sea Orgs] , Power and Superpower require advanced auditor skills and trained C/S. The above rundowns should not be delivered without the supervision of a trained C/S. C/S training is required as some of the handlings are in the C/S materials. The authentic Flag Only Rundowns materials have not been released in the Free Field

The C/S series came out in 1970-es. Any claims that one has been trained as a C/S before that are untrue! “Dishonesty cuts persons reach” and fraudulent claims are only motivated by GREED. One must be pretty desperate to lie and deliberately mislead about their training and attests.

WARNING

WARNING: At the behest of the Church of Scientology Office of Special Affairs (OSA) a cowardly individual has been sending emails of an illegal and hateful nature while seeking to attribute them to me. The warped and perverted communications impersonating me are using the email address friendsofpierre@XXXXXX.com.

In most cases they contain significantly altered and embellished private communications, designed to upset and enturbulate people, so that they will be distracted from their mission of repairing cases that have been messed up through botched and reckless counseling.

Pierre Ethier

Note from admin

Pierre Ethier does not endorse any groups , associations and independent auditors unless otherwise specified via private communication. Any arrangements for Case Supervision must be confirmed directly with Pierre, as well as the current status validation of training, certifications and good standing related to ethics, cramming and application of standard tech. Pierre Ethier DOES NOT endorse the delivery of the Ls by other auditors or trainees. Please be warned that there were multiple instances when auditors have been fraudulently claiming that Pierre Ethier is C/S-ing their practice and on few occasions have been fraudulently charging the PC under a false pretence.

Pierre Ethier DOES NOT endorse the delivery of the Ls by other auditors or trainees, this specifically apply to TREY LOTZ whom Pierre Ethier never actually trained on L12 nor L10 after too many flubs,and insisting on auditing pcs that were clearly not setup, (ignoring FLUNKS and explicit interdiction from Pierre as the C/S), in addition to Trey refusal to correct on L11 and on chronically missing witholds on his pcs. Trey Lotz has NOT completed & attested training and is NOT certified by Pierre Ethier to deliver the Ls . According to Trey Lotz he informed his public that Pierre is not C/Sing for him. Karen de La Carriere has confirmed that she has never C/Sed for Trey Lotz nor trained him on the Ls. She has not provided him any Ls materials either.

Pierre Ethier does not engage in the distribution of copyrighted materials, despite of roomers and innuendos from Trey Lotz and his associates.

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Field auditors affiliated with the Corporate Church of Scientology deliver auditing up to Clear and typically have NO EXPERIENCE in delivering upper levels .Field auditors refer their PC to the Orgs for 15% FSM commission which they receive for services purchased by the PC from the Church. A field auditor usually comes out in the free field with no experience auditing beyond Clear and lacks the discipline to audit under C/S..

Flag only rundowns (which Pierre studied and delivered – e.g. Original Super Power Rundown, Knowledge Rundown , Case Cracker Rundown , New Vitality Rundown , Fixated Person Rundown , Dynamic Sort-out Assessment , NOTs Stability Rundown, Held Down Seven Rundown, Int. by Dynamics Rundown, Havingness Rundown , The Prosperity Rundown, The Money Rundown, Profession Intensive ) address variety of handlings like money and spiritual difficulties, issues, ethics , case situations and other. The Ls , Flag Only Rundowns [Delivered at Flag Only] , NOTs [Delivered only in Advanced Organizations / Sea Orgs] , Power and Superpower require advanced auditor skills and trained C/S. The above rundowns should not be delivered without the supervision of a trained C/S. C/S training is required as some of the handlings are in the C/S materials. The authentic Flag Only Rundowns materials have not been released in the Free Field.

Frequently Asked Questions

Do you still audit?

Pierre Ethier  is supporting an exclusive and limited circle of public, who maintain ethical standards and are dedicated to standard tech and spiritual advancement. Pierre does not support other practices and discourage mixing practices. Pierre accepts new public only after a case assessment.

Pierre makes any recommendations and discuss further arrangements only after a thorough case assessment with the one who have shown to be truly dedicated to spiritual advancement . 

Can you share the list of the trained Class XIIs?

Below is the list of the trained Class XII.  There are fraudulent claims by people who have not been trained or have not attested.  The names of the auditors personally trained by LRH are well documented in the Apollo Crew List and other documents. The original 8 Class XIIs that were trained by LRH are listed in the following link:

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/11/19/list-of-the-original-8-lrh-trained-class-xii-s/

The list of all Class XIIs that were ever made was compiled in 1998:

http://community.freezone-tech.info/pierre-ethier/pierre-ethier/complete-list-of-all-class-xii-auditors-ever-made/

Do you travel to provide onsite auditing?

Pierre Ethier no longer travels, his time currently is predominantly dedicated to research. His travels are related only to completion of ongoing cycles.

Can you recommend auditors in my area?

It has proven that in order to recommend an auditor Pierre has to consistently oversee his/hers practice , training and ethical standards. On other hand for every Preclear there are case specific requirements that have to be addressed. Some auditors who are good auditing the lower bridge , might lack training on the upper bridge. For the above reasons any recommendations can be done only after a thorough assessment of the  auditor and additional case assessment of the Preclear , along with consistent Case Supervision.

I am in a need of repair due to bad auditing. Any recommendations?

Often this kind of situation is related to some sort of ethics situation. On one hand the poor choice of auditor shows  low perceptions. It was your responsibility to choose wisely and verify your auditor’s claims and credentials versus actual objective outcomes of his practice. (Reference: Dishonesty cuts persons reach HCO Bulletin 1 May 1985 “Honesty and Case Gain”:

 https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/09/11/dishonesty-cuts-persons-reach/) .

You will have to deal with your personal ethics in order improve your ability to make wise decisions. On other hand auditors that mislead or defraud about  their credentials are out ethics. One example is the delivery of the Ls. Most of the fixes for the Ls are in the C/S materials. This is why the role of the C/S is vital and auditor needs advanced training that has been typically provided at Flag.

I was getting auditing in the Church. I am considering auditing in the Free field. Would I be able to get my folders?

This is a question that you should be directing to the Church.

Do you respond anonymous correspondence?

No. Anonymous exchange is an indication of some sort of ethics situation. Perhaps you should consider resolving it first.

Do you provide assistance with requests for refunds from the Church of Scientology?

No. 

Do you distribute copyrighted materials?

Absolutely not, despite of rumors and innuendos from Trey Lotz and his associates.

What about delivery of the Ls in the Free Field?

The Ls are designed to be delivered by Flag trained Class XIIs. There is a huge difference between a Flag trained auditor and a field auditor. Below is a Quote by Karen De La Carierre , Class XII C/S: 

“I soon discovered that a “Field Class VIII” did not mean a Flag Class VIII. And so I re-did all my internships and then trained up to Class XII…”

Rumors that Pierre has trained Trey Lotz to deliver the Ls are also untrue.  Pierre did attempt to train Trey Lotz on L11 , Trey committed gross auditing errors , refused correction and never sent a video for evaluation, yet made many unreasonable demands. Trey Lotz never attested nor completed Ls training with Pierre. Trey Lotz is a field auditor, never worked in an advanced organization and has mostly experience auditing the Lower Bridge . It is a well known fact that as a field auditor Trey was forbidden per Church Policy to audit any Upper Level Rundowns and OT Levels. He lacked the discipline  and the training to audit under the supervision of a C/S and lacked experience  to address the complexity of the Upper Bridge . There is vital information for the Ls in the C/S materials and for an auditor with no experience in the Upper Bridge to deliver the Ls without a C/S is reckless. In addition many of the  references related to the Ls are in the Class X , Class XI and Class XII materials and Trey is only Class VIII. When Trey Lotz promotes 40 000 hours on the chair , this means that his experience is overwhelmingly  in the Lower Bridge, which is not as complex as the Upper Bridge. L11 was designed by LRH to be delivered in a week , however Trey Lotz was chronically delivering it on numerous occasions in a duration of 4 months. This information is also broadly documented on the internet in various public releases by Trey’s PCs. Additional out tech was present in Trey’s delivery and Pierre wish NO association with Trey Lotz.

A number of Trey Lotz PCs have viciously attacked Pierre and his family on Trey’s behalf , this including attacking Pierre’s child due to his disability or making  other vicious and cruel threats. The very same Trey’s PCs also carried out vast smear campaigns about Pierre and claimed to have  made fraudulent reports to the Church and various government agencies . A PC of Trey claims to have partnered with the Church in attacking Pierre to uphold Trey’s financial interests , claimed to have paid $30 000 to investigate Pierre in order to ruin his auditing practice and take Pierre’s home with intention of unfairly profiting and putting his disabled child homeless, published on the internet Pierre’s bank account and private phone numbers with an invitation  to harass Pierre. This was an organized effort of associates of Trey Lotz in a partnership with the Church to silence and dead agent Pierre in order prevent him from auditing. This evil plot eventually fired back on them.   Such a behavior is practically shameless and  it is sad to see such  EVIL outcome has been produced by a practitioner out of GREEDEVIL is a poor product! We hope that one day the above people will realize that seeking to destroy people of good will (like Pierre) is NOT the road to spiritual enlightenment. This also applies to their enablers and associates. In all cases these PCs were prized and socially rewarded  by Trey Lotz despite of their EVIL  behavior seeking to destroy a person of good will. Good people who had voiced private concerns directly to Trey Lotz , had been also threatened by the very same PCs.

 Trey Lotz NEVER made any advanced payments to Pierre to book or schedule his time and to cover Pierre’s time and expenses with a fair exchange . Rumors and innuendos from Trey Lotz and his associates in that regard are also untrue.  Pierre who spent 20 years in the Sea Org at almost no pay , had covered out of his own pocket many advanced and initial expenses , as well as ongoing expenses related Trey, who had spent his time as a field auditor at the rate of  around $160 000/ year. (based on Trey’s own reports to IRS  for tax exemption 2004 ,2001 – this is exactly like the Church- merely mentioning the facts here! Also  based on Trey Lotz own boosting to have delivered 4000 hours of Ls auditing which amounts to 2500 hours in the last two years or $250 000 per year just from the Ls where around $100 000/year seem to have been unreported to IRS) In one year period alone Pierre provided to Trey in excess of 300 hours unpaid services. 

Below is a quote by LRH that explains that the Upper Bridge should not be misused. This applies for the Ls , OT Levels , Flag Only Rundowns, NOTs and other Upper Bridge actions.

“The lower levels of Scientology are quite innocent. Only the upper grades could be harmful if misused and these are only placed in the hands of experts” L. Ron Hubbard in “ Is Scientology Dangerous”


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Related:

 https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/warning/

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/11/06/flag-trained-auditors/

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/09/11/flag-only-rundowns-mastered-by-flag-auditors-only/

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/why-interships-are-so-vital-for-the-auditor-delivering-the-ls/

All information contained, written and/or supplied shall be deemed to be without prejudice and is intended only for general education use.

Click here for a summary of concerns about delivery of the Ls in the FreeZone/ Independent field by Karen De La Carriere

Other related articles:

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/vital-information-about-the-ls-rundowns/

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/programs/why-interships-are-so-vital-for-the-auditor-delivering-the-ls/

https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/articles/the-sad-fate-of-lisa-mcpherson/

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  • Black Dianetics and/or reverse processing is often done on the person in an effort to cave him/her in. Black Dianetics is used in the free field by auditors who apply processes sourced by the Church to cave in others or to produce fanatic followers. Typically those auditors never been trained to provide the specific level , lack major data from the rundowns. Their unsuspected subjects rave in euphoria but then constantly get stuck on irrelevant issues, enterbualate and get upset easily. Those kind of people become restimulated, simply unstable and easily manipulated. This is how one produce EVIL, promote EVIL and talk mostly about EVIL doing.
  • When an individual continues to vocalize or write about disagreements with Black PR treatment or anything else about evil practices he/she is being subjected to, a partnership of allies will publish mean-spirited propaganda about that individual. That propaganda inevitably contains the fruits of the personal and private communication and the private life of the targeted individual directed into a smear campaign. Seldom is it done with chapter-and-verse, literal detail which could make the opressor legally accountable. Instead, it is done through a sophisticated and complex propaganda methodology. It requires the development of a dark and evil mindset to create this sort of propaganda.
  •  Ralph Hilton had published an open letter as a part of a Black PR campaign to spread the enemy line around the web. Now over a five years later a crowd of stooges related to the Church are glorifying  Hilton’s full admission of having personal attitude problems , re-stimulation and acting out of EVIL. Ralph Hilton wrote: “I attacked you in return – yes it was evil purposes in restimulation and I know that I woke them up to do it.” It is very wrong to do others in. It is wrong to orchestrate attacks out of your own evil. It is even more wrong to freely advertise your evil intentions like it is something that makes you stand out with promoting your evil and appealing to manipulate the crowd of haters to join you in doing evil to others. Evil remains evil , no matter what shape and form it takes. There is no excuse for evil doing! Be aware that very sadly evil propagates to your associates and allies.

It is time to say ” Enough is Enough” of your evil!

We do not want your evil in our lives!

The Church of Scientology snooping for Tech. Reviews (Humor)

The Church of Scientology is apparently a fan of Pierre’s Technical Reviews. We have documented a recent visit from the Church groupies below:

Date: 13.07.2013

Time: 23:39:46 ( Moscow time zone)

IP198.77.155.102

United States

California

Los Angeles

URL visited: https://pierreethier.wordpress.com/articles/availab…

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Diantetics and Scientology Research Project

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Pierre Ethier has spent many years in Dianetics and Scientology Research dedicated to documenting the technology research for supporting the standard tech application processing and preserving the Scientology Spiritual Technology in its powerful original. His efforts include sustaining of a full line of research materials on Dianetics and Applied Scientology in their unaltered original, including many undocumented contributions.

Currently our Research Library includes Full Runs of all major Scientology Publications as they were originally mailed:

Publications and magazines:

  • Dianetic auditor bulletins ,
  • Professional auditor bulletins “PABS” ,
  •  Journal of Scientology ,
  • Certainty ,
  • Ability “Washington” ,
  • Auditor ,
  • Advance,
  •  Source ,
  • Celebrity and many others.

Other non-sectioned publications:

  • The Aberree
  • Dianotes
  • Dianews
  • ARC Light
  • CADA Journals and Bulletins
  • Free Spirit
  • Bristol Dianetic Review and many others

Full First Editions of books and booklets from the 1950-es, both by L.Ron Hubbard and other Dianeticists and scientologist. (the list is very long).

Large quantity of original Reels to Reels from the 1950-es by both L. Ron Hubbard and his followers and dissenters, and scores of published original materials.

Have rare, historical or significant books or materials? Why not make them available for research and beyond?

Pierre Ethier welcomes gifts of materials and monetary donations for research materials from individuals or groups. All materials must be legally obtained without exception. Please contact us if you kindly want to contribute rare, historical books or other materials that you want to make available for technology research for enhancing and preserving standard tech applications. Where possible we will attempt to add the materials into our Research Library based on criteria that apply to the selection of our library materials. It is understood that gifts are freely given without conditions attached.

All donations will be considered as Donations of Gifts-In-Kind. You also can make voluntary donation via PayPal.

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It is understood that gifts are freely given without conditions attached.

Pierre has been compiling a Scientology Research library purchasing many rare materials in order to preserve the tech. and to use the materials for research and as a practical reference for standard processing. This project has been heavily sabotaged in the the past, however it came to produce extraordinary good results despite the counter intention and many road blocks. Now the fruits of the hard work have become evident.

Recently we have been approached by benefactors who offered some help for this project. I am happy to see that despite of the many who just want to consume resources without fair exchange, there are some kind people who  actually want to contribute and further help for the development of the Scientology Research Library by sending gifts-in-kind donating materials and monetary resources. I am happy to see that true kindness and care for others is still out there.

Thank you for your gifts-in-kind and your contributions.

True kindness is still out there.

What makes great people are the simple acts of kindness.

Is Shelly Miscavige missing?

Shelly Miscavige is the wife of David Miscavige. It seems that she has not been seen for the last six years. A defector allegedly has stated that she is being held a prisoner on a Scientology property where she is guarded, and interrogated, day and night.

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In Response to EVIL – another story of abuse

Catherine Ethier

Open letter by Catherine Ethier

My husband, Pierre Ethier was for 20 years Sea Org staff working at almost no pay as a Scientology Counselor . He has been the auditor to many Celebrities. There are over 5000 people in his counseling list and he had achieved the top training levels at the Church of Scientology. For 20 years my husband was working 110 hours a week as a slave at almost no pay while the Church of Scientology was profiting from his services at the rate of $1000 per hour from parishioners.  Pierre was dedicated into kindness and helping people.

My husband left the Church of Scientology after he was coerced to provide loans to parishioners for services at the Church of Scientology and coerced otherwise to  provide money directly to the Church of Scientology. Those  were funds needed for his medical treatment and funds vital for a necessary follow up surgery after an accident.

While on staff at the Church my husband  was in an accident that caused him a severe injury. He was hit by a drunk taxi driver . My husband spent many days in coma , his leg was ripped apart and surgically reconstructed. He was told he will never walk again. He walked but the loans he generously gave to  the Church parishioners for their own spiritual benefit to purchase services at the Church of Scientology were never repaid. There were no money left for his medical treatment , he could not afford to pay for a required follow up surgery and this resulted in a DISABILITY FOR LIFE. For his kindness my husband had to cope with disability for life and was consistently ridiculed by associates of the Church, their allies and the manipulated by them crowds. There were numerous character assassination attacks on my husband which were carried out maliciously by publishing defamatory libelous  matters without lawful justification or excuse and only meant to injure the reputation of my husband and my family by exposing us to hatred, contempt and ridicule that was designed to insult us. This is criminal!

Also while working as a staff in the Church my husband sustained injuries and severe life threatening conditions. The last one I personally witnessed was treated by Dr. Minkoff ( also involved in the Lisa McPherson‘s case). My husband was instructed by the MLO ( The Medical Officer at the Church) that the Church is not maintaining workers compensation insurance for their own employees and will not cover the treatment needed even if he was going to die. Workers compensation coverage for employees is mandatory regulatory requirement to cover employee treatment for injuries on the job. We have kept silent about this kind of abuse for many years now just to be abused even more by what appears to be people manipulated by the Church of Scientology or ruthless corrupt individuals who have inherited the poisoned culture from that environment. 

My husband came out of  the Church of Scientology broke and with disability! ( In actual fact I took him out of the Church of Scientology!) He never begged for money like some of the abusers dedicated to insult him. He did not beg for money even if he desperately needed funds for his medical surgery. In retrospect I recall one of our constant and very vocal abusers  begging for donations for legal expenses to get out of trouble generated by mischief and crime. Another shameless group of  evil abusers wanted to profit from getting the home of  my disabled child and leaving us homeless. This out of EVIL and GREED. Not only that Pierre did not beg for money, but he has many times reached the unexpected , he is productive , active and generously donates time and efforts for betterment of others.

In addition there were constant attacks to our marriage. Recently a  marriage wrecker  again made a lot of noise promoting the Church of Scientology enemy line: “Pierre, some advice. Lose the crazy bi*ch …”   Along with the smearing of my disabled child wolfs in sheep`s clothing have partnered  into what has become a professional home and marriage wrecking. This EVIL  line sounds very familiar because in actual fact it closely resembles the line of Barbro Wennberg . Barbro Wennberg is a staff at the Church of Scientology who aimed to split our family writing on my husband’s folder an order: “dump the bi*ch”. Let me tell you more about Barbro. Barbro was for  two days caretaker of Lisa McPherson. Along with others she  kept Lisa  confined in a hotel room and  did not take her to the hospital ( Link1  , Link2 , Link 3Link 4) when needed. Lisa McPherson as you all know died.

Preaching family destruction is EVIL! Promoting family disconnection is EVIL! It takes some real EVIL to split a family.

There has been a continuous internet drama generated by few unbalanced individuals for many years now who were trying hard to enforce  the Church of Scientology enemy lines  with fabricated postings (which were often fraudulently contributed to me) ,  “snippets”, other exerts out of context , “telepathic mind reading” realizations, alterations, misrepresentations, doctored offensive images, name calling and other assertions that are only their own abusive fabrications, fraudulent impersonations and delusions. I have kept silent about this EVIL. There were also individuals who fraudulently were claiming to know me and my husband and to speak on our behalf in order to instigate conflicts or boost their own self promotion with misrepresentations. Be aware that nothing of this fraudulent propaganda targeted to victimize us it to be believed. 

I have been frequently fraudulently copied/pasted in hostile write ups and monologues when the authors generated wild rumors which shall not be believed.  This generated hatred is primary distorted within the lenses of the authors own fabrications coupled with lots of DRAMA ! I get more attention than many celebrities in their respective fields. I get more attention than the Church because the Church is to big of a spoon for their mouths. Seems that some are very upset that the Church agents are unwelcome to my site but naturally they can feel free to entertain them on theirs.

Now that I spoke out , the wolfs in sheep`s clothing will be the more vocal and will make another drama, fabricate some more untrue statements , abuse me and my family some more. That is all they are about. Make no mistake.

The good people will now understand that they have been manipulated into repeating the Church of Scientology agenda and will find out that the animosity serves no purpose.

I have come to forgive you for what you have done to me , to my child and to my family.

I wish you well.

Catherine Ethier

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Ls Rundowns – Vital Information

There is a lot of false data on the Ls and their delivery in the “Independent” field. This comes exclusively from untrained and unqualified auditors doing these rundowns using altered, forged and/or stolen materials, in addition to the fact they have over 50% missing. I tried to train a few people to deliver those rundowns, and tried, only for a short while to supervise their auditing. I divorced myself from each of those people, as soon as I realized they had betrayed my trust by mis-auditing those rundowns, refusing to do standard setups, getting repeated FLUNKS and being adamant they made no errors and refusing correction. There are 6 pending retrain orders among those people (all involving goofs at lower levels) that are still not complied with, because they each admitted, it would be detrimental to their income. Each of them provided me with criminal exchange.

I later found out that each of them had been guilty of false auditor reports. I have not been C/Sing any auditors on the Ls for many  years now. However, according to their dissatisfied pcs who keep coming forward, many claims were made that I was C/Sing their case when I wasn’t.

No need to name names as there are no exceptions as it applies to the Ls. My message to those individuals is: Shame on you, for spending much time promoting yourself on the Internet, while you ignore vital retrain orders and keep making the same mistakes. You need some ethics help first, per LRH, retraining or studying over personal unhandled out-ethics will result in no change and making the same flubs. Fortunately there are many Independents who state they offer Ethics Handlings.

The Ls rundowns based on thousands of cases seen by myself and those I have audited and information by Flag LRH trained Class XII C/Ses:

1- should be audited INTENSELY, meaning one session day at the very minimum, unless the pc is on a persistent F/N and undesirous of more auditing for the day. Auditing Ls at one session a week is a GROSS Violation of C/S Series 1 and the bulletins that explain the philosophy of those rundowns and what they seek to achieve. I have report of an auditor exactly doing that, apparently taking 6 months to a year on an L, meaning LIFE itself was the main process being run on the case, not the Ls. Seemingly those people are now happy. The question is for how long, as the C/S series clearly state that out-tech on a pc, even when the person may be rave about their attest, may be short lived or unstable, sometimes not. In each case, who can truly tell what wins the person receiving the out-tech auditing actually missed???

I have declined repeatedly to audit people on the Ls when it was impossible to deliver them intensively (meaning at least once, preferably more) those Ls either because of my schedule or the pcs. Unfortunately, less scrupulous individuals, are apparently still taking people hard earned money for that kind of delivery I repeatedly told them was wrong and out-tech. One of the auditors is a millionaire. I am not. I am not rich but I have been told that I have a heart of gold and my ultimate satisfaction it that I have helped people and did my best.

2- A plausible duration for L-11, where the pc had been honestly and fully set-up and done an in tech fashion is from a low 4 hours to a Maximum of 40 hours. Anyone run less than that (and sometimes even more) is QUICKIED. Anyone run over 40 hours was either NOT SET-UP, unnecessary optional rundowns (or those designed for another case and not the pc) were run, or there is significant OUT-TECH. By far the most likely is NOT SET-UP. If the PC is not properly set up, the PC will run then the PC will run endlessly.

Setups for the Ls are explicitly described in HCOB “Auditing and C/Sing Flag Only rundowns and a restricted checklist. The HCOB just mentioned has  NOT  been read by anyone delivering the Ls in the free field, because it is part of the Ls C/S materials only.

I have heard reports of people being run 100 hours or even 200 hours on L-11. Sometimes it comes from the pc himself, or from his/her published success story.

We have heard auditors charged for L-11  between $20,000 and $40,000 and taking in excess of 100 to 200 hours. WoW!!!  This is more than the Church charges. These poor saps have either literally money to burn or do so little research that they happily pay the Ferrari list price when buying a Geo or a Volkswagen. There were actual reports from PCs paying for a single L in excess of  $300 000. I am shocked by the arrogance of those “gold diggers”.  As to myself I have often attended the needs of dying and abandoned Scientologists at my own expense and spent countless hours assisting people.

3- A plausible duration for L-12, where the pc had been honestly and fully set-up and done an in tech fashion is from a low 10 hours to a Maximum of 50 hours. The same comments as I wrote for L-11 apply. Apparently there are people who have spent 100-200 hours on L-12, paying more than the Church own exorbitant prices. I heard of a person getting L-12 in one hour by an auditor… meaning 90% of the rundown could not have possibly been run.

4- L-10 is different than other Ls. It is a long rundown. It covers all dynamics and areas of life. A standardly run L-10 has a minimum of 2500 questions, with many others for handling items that come up. 25 hours is made of 1500 minutes. Spending only one minute per question means the auditor is zipping the rundown at supersonic speed and failing to restimulate the pc. This means the auditor has at his hands the full power of a 747 Jumbo jet and is satisfied with doing local pizza delivery and never getting off the ground.

L-10 duration can vary widely. On a non-clear, Dianetics R3r is run as part of the rundown. This can lengthen the rundown.

An badly trained auditor will often overrun handlings, since he does not have the skill to properly spot them. Instead of validating the EP of an Item when it occurs, he will run many additional (unnecessary) questions, extending unnecessary the rundown (and filling his pocket in the bargain). This can cause the earlier blown item to come back, resulting in instability or unaddressed aberration. It took months of Internships, videos and cramming accessing LRH C/Sed L-10 session to learn how to audit L-10 flublessly. Per C/S 52 and LRH conferences on the Flag Internship and on auditing the Ls, this is the only way an auditor can learn how to audit L-10 properly. Anything else is QUICKIE training and will result in Quickie L-10. This is what LRH says and my experience has shown him to be correct on that point.

Apparently some people don’t mind getting botched Ls (or out-tech/squirrel auditing). Rotten food may taste great, if you have never eaten anything but unflavoured liquid protein and vitamins, but don’t be surprised you get infected with E choli or worse…

Karen de la Carriere trained by LRH, multiple winner of the auditor of the year award at Flag and an authentic Flag Class XII C/S, has made several statements about the training and skills necessary to learns the Ls.

I agree with each of them 100%. Specifically she said:

“There is nothing in the field in current set ups that can even come near approximating Ls training. Each internship takes MONTHS of 40 hour to 60 hours in the chair of flawless VWD sessions for graduation to be approved. But the pc is the beneficiary and is now in safe hands. The safety and guaranteed stability of the pc is the primary importance here. To hell with any other consideration than the PC and the PC’s benefit.” Karen

I could not have said it better myself.

Written by Pierre Ethier

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